On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> Personally, OS X Server is useful for just Web hosting. As a general 
> workgroup server, now that's different. I made a chart of the Mac Mini Server 
> vs Windows Small Business Server on Dell/HP/Lenovo boxes, and the Mini is 50% 
> cheaper while not having any limit of the number of users. And OS X Server is 
> a joy to install vs. Windows SMB, I had to install SMB and that stupid crap 
> won't warm you about not having enough RAM until it's half-way into the 
> install, and when you got it to run, it tell you to disable the DHCP service 
> on your network so that Windows start its own!
> 

You're comparing to Windows here. I was talking about comparisons to real 
servers. Sorry, did not think that even needed to be said.

"Better than Windows" is the same as saying "better than a stick in the eye." 
Lots of things are better than a stick in the eye.

- ray

>> 
>> I am curious what others are thinking about this. My company has several 
>> data centers around the work running on Mac OS X Servers, but given the 
>> announcements from Apple, we are obviously re-thinking our deployments.
>> 
>> And as we do so, a few things come to mind. For example:
>> 
>> - No more Software Update. We could actually be more easily in control of 
>> our installations.
>> 
>> - The ability to take extra crap off of the servers. I have only one word. 
>> iTunes. Why is it so hard to remove this from our servers?
>> 
>> - We could go to different kinds of hardware, like blade systems.
>> 
>> - We can use a more easily virtualized OS.
>> 
>> So, what will we miss?
>> 
>> I think we may miss launchd, or at least I will. But then, for example, 
>> JavaMonitor does not control app instances with launchd and I think it 
>> should, so it is obviously not as compelling to others as I think it should 
>> be.
>> 
>> Will we miss Server Admin? No. Nice GUI but then, where the heck does it put 
>> things and what is not quite available via the UI? For every time it helps, 
>> there is another time it causes other hassles.
>> 
>> So, is there anything else to miss? Maybe not. The WO deployment mailing 
>> list might be getting more interesting. We will see.
>> 
>> - ray

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