Am 13.05.2010 um 21:18 schrieb David LeBer:

> 
> On 2010-05-13, at 3:16 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Le 10-05-13 à 15:10, ISHIMOTO Ken a écrit :
>> 
>>> But I believe there are Developers with other Languages here on that List.
>>> 
>>> Maybe good to know if other Language works with UTF-8 perfect too.
>>> 
>>> Japanese  OK
>>> Germany   OK
>>> English     OK
>>> 
>>> French ?
>> 
>> We always use UTF-16 for Localizable.strings
> 
> ditto

+1 for English, German, French and Spanish.

> 
>> 
>>> Italien ?
>>> .....
>>> 
>>> more
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2010/05/13, at 19:40, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I guess we can rule out my theory then.  :-)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 13, 2010, at 10:30 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I am using English, German and japanese with WO now, and all 3 Language 
>>>>> have no Problems with UTF-8.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But you are right there are many other Language out there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also thanks to Mike for fixing the Velocity Template Engine to UTF-8 last 
>>>>> Summer. That helped a lot, and it is possible now
>>>>> to make all Templates in Japanese.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But usually Japanese is one of the most Problems because there are about 
>>>>> 7-8 different Encodings and with UTF-8 it is like
>>>>> "It just works"....
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ken
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2010/05/13, at 19:14, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would not get too excited.  I will guess that Ken's string files 
>>>>>> contain Japanese text which uses a double byte encoding in Unicode.  
>>>>>> That is easy to detect.  Western European languages use mostly single 
>>>>>> byte encoding which is harder to differentiate from non-Unicode.  IIRC, 
>>>>>> that is the problem that WO has in determining the encoding.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 13, 2010, at 4:41 AM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That sounds promising.  I'll have to try it again sometime Ken.  Last 
>>>>>>> time I attempted it, only UTF-16 worked for me.  UTF-8 would be better 
>>>>>>> because when I create a new project using a project template, the 
>>>>>>> .strings are always UTF-8.  WOLips doesn't seem to have a way to mark 
>>>>>>> them UTF-16 in a template.  I'd prefer one encoding so I simply don't 
>>>>>>> have to think about it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ramsey
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 13, 2010, at 2:40 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In my Project every file is UTF-8, also the .string files.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With UTF-8 everywhere Multi language Application are happy and no 
>>>>>>>> trouble anymore.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> FrontBase do a got Job in UTF-8 do and it is much easier to use it 
>>>>>>>> everywhere as have to deal
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> with a lot different encodings in an application.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Greetings Ken Ishimoto
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> iPadから送信
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2010/05/12, at 21:34, Anjo Krank wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which replaces, say, 
>>>>>>>>> A| with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain ascii.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Anjo
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ramsey
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in 
>>>>>>>>>>> UTF16. Has something changed recently?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> d
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> problem here was definitely to do with the encoding of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> individual files.  Somehow, a small number of the files in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> project must have remained in another encoding, probably ISO Latin 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1, to be honest I don't even know what encoding they had - thanks 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to BBEdit - it just opens them using its auto-detect feature and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed me to re-save them as UTF8 or whatever other format I need 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and having re-imported them to the new project they are now 
>>>>>>>>>>>> working great.  This seemed to happen a lot in XCode, particularly 
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the localizable.strings files.  I don't know why but I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> remember I had to constantly reconvert them to UTF8.  Must be some 
>>>>>>>>>>>> setting or bug somewhere in XCode.  Anyway, I'm starting to feel 
>>>>>>>>>>>> like all the files in my projects are now getting some kind of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> consistency with regard to their encoding, thanks to Eclipse, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> WOLips and BBEdit :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ken,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> BBEdit with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> leave it on auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> then open correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best 
>>>>>>>>>>>> solution is using BBEdit.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> imported code.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Ishimoto
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> iPadから送信
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> else can I set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be changed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of the pages I am getting two strange symbols as the first 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entries in the HTML file.  Then, if I click in some text and try 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to delete it letter by letter, I have to delete twice each time 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to delete one character.  If I then type some new text, it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears fine in the file but when I load it in a browser it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows as chinese characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new characters appear like this.  If I delete the two 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange characters at the beginning of the file it seems to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create even more strange behaviour.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be a bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with encoding.  I have set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how to check the actual encoding on any given page. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I have had this problem (or something similar) before in XCode 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and as I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to actually 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convert the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format or was corrupted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'convert' command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for any given document?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
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