But I believe there are Developers with other Languages here on that List.

Maybe good to know if other Language works with UTF-8 perfect too.

Japanese  OK
Germany   OK
English     OK

French ?
Italien ?
.....

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On 2010/05/13, at 19:40, Chuck Hill wrote:

> I guess we can rule out my theory then.  :-)
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2010, at 10:30 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
> 
>> I am using English, German and japanese with WO now, and all 3 Language have 
>> no Problems with UTF-8.
>> 
>> But you are right there are many other Language out there.
>> 
>> Also thanks to Mike for fixing the Velocity Template Engine to UTF-8 last 
>> Summer. That helped a lot, and it is possible now
>> to make all Templates in Japanese.
>> 
>> But usually Japanese is one of the most Problems because there are about 7-8 
>> different Encodings and with UTF-8 it is like
>> "It just works"....
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> 
>> On 2010/05/13, at 19:14, Chuck Hill wrote:
>> 
>>> I would not get too excited.  I will guess that Ken's string files contain 
>>> Japanese text which uses a double byte encoding in Unicode.  That is easy 
>>> to detect.  Western European languages use mostly single byte encoding 
>>> which is harder to differentiate from non-Unicode.  IIRC, that is the 
>>> problem that WO has in determining the encoding.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 13, 2010, at 4:41 AM, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That sounds promising.  I'll have to try it again sometime Ken.  Last time 
>>>> I attempted it, only UTF-16 worked for me.  UTF-8 would be better because 
>>>> when I create a new project using a project template, the .strings are 
>>>> always UTF-8.  WOLips doesn't seem to have a way to mark them UTF-16 in a 
>>>> template.  I'd prefer one encoding so I simply don't have to think about 
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> Ramsey
>>>> 
>>>> On May 13, 2010, at 2:40 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> In my Project every file is UTF-8, also the .string files.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With UTF-8 everywhere Multi language Application are happy and no trouble 
>>>>> anymore.
>>>>> 
>>>>> FrontBase do a got Job in UTF-8 do and it is much easier to use it 
>>>>> everywhere as have to deal
>>>>> 
>>>>> with a lot different encodings in an application.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greetings Ken Ishimoto
>>>>> 
>>>>> iPadから送信
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2010/05/12, at 21:34, Anjo Krank wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can edit the files with the built-in editor, which replaces, say, A| 
>>>>>> with \U00e4. Then you can save them as plain ascii.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers, Anjo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 12.05.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Ramsey Gurley:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> UTF-16 big endian, no BOM (UTF-16BE in Eclipse)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ramsey
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 12, 2010, at 2:53 PM, David Holt wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's my understanding that the .strings files still need to be in 
>>>>>>>> UTF16. Has something changed recently?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> d
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2010-05-12, at 11:50 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In case it should help anyone else in this kind of situation, the 
>>>>>>>>> problem here was definitely to do with the encoding of the individual 
>>>>>>>>> files.  Somehow, a small number of the files in the project must have 
>>>>>>>>> remained in another encoding, probably ISO Latin 1, to be honest I 
>>>>>>>>> don't even know what encoding they had - thanks to BBEdit - it just 
>>>>>>>>> opens them using its auto-detect feature and allowed me to re-save 
>>>>>>>>> them as UTF8 or whatever other format I need and having re-imported 
>>>>>>>>> them to the new project they are now working great.  This seemed to 
>>>>>>>>> happen a lot in XCode, particularly with the localizable.strings 
>>>>>>>>> files.  I don't know why but I remember I had to constantly reconvert 
>>>>>>>>> them to UTF8.  Must be some setting or bug somewhere in XCode.  
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I'm starting to feel like all the files in my projects are 
>>>>>>>>> now getting some kind of consistency with regard to their encoding, 
>>>>>>>>> thanks to Eclipse, WOLips and BBEdit :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ken,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think this may be the solution.  If I try and open the file in 
>>>>>>>>> BBEdit with UTF8 it says it's corrupted or badly formatted.  If I 
>>>>>>>>> leave it on auto-detect, I can re-save it as UTF8 and it seems to 
>>>>>>>>> then open correctly.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 10, 2010, at 2:12 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For change the encoding on an text file (HTML) file the best solution 
>>>>>>>>> is using BBEdit.
>>>>>>>>> I mostly use Japanese and have sometimes problems like that with 
>>>>>>>>> imported code.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ken Ishimoto
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> iPadから送信
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2010/05/10, at 8:38, David Griffith <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Well I've checked this in the Properties for the project, where else 
>>>>>>>>>> can I set it?  I haven't found any other points where it can be 
>>>>>>>>>> changed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On May 10, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you have the wrong encoding set.  Check this under 
>>>>>>>>>> the various file / directory Properties in Eclipse.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On May 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In one of my apps that I've converted over to Eclipse, I am having 
>>>>>>>>>>> trouble updating the HTML pages.  I've noticed that on some of the 
>>>>>>>>>>> pages I am getting two strange symbols as the first entries in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> HTML file.  Then, if I click in some text and try to delete it 
>>>>>>>>>>> letter by letter, I have to delete twice each time to delete one 
>>>>>>>>>>> character.  If I then type some new text, it appears fine in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> file but when I load it in a browser it shows as chinese 
>>>>>>>>>>> characters.  The rest of the page is fine, only the new characters 
>>>>>>>>>>> appear like this.  If I delete the two strange characters at the 
>>>>>>>>>>> beginning of the file it seems to create even more strange 
>>>>>>>>>>> behaviour.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I am currently updating Eclipse to the latest version in case it 
>>>>>>>>>>> might be a bug in there, but it looks to me like something to do 
>>>>>>>>>>> with encoding.  I have set the workspace encoding to UTF-8 but I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>> not sure how to check the actual encoding on any given page.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>> have had this problem (or something similar) before in XCode and as 
>>>>>>>>>>> I remember I had to use the 'convert' command to actually convert 
>>>>>>>>>>> the file to UTF-8 as it was either saved in some other format or 
>>>>>>>>>>> was corrupted.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone ever seen this?  Or anyone know if there is an equivalent 
>>>>>>>>>>> 'convert' command in Eclipse to specifically set the encoding for 
>>>>>>>>>>> any given document?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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