Thanks. Yes, option 1 is the 'approved' solution, I think. It doesn't get 
tricky.

And thanks for the link. I like anti-pattern books...great sanity checks. 
Unfortunately, I find a lot of my code in them! :)

On Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:45:38 AM UTC-6, Richard wrote:
>
> In this case the best approach will be to have a normalized schema that 
> allow to use all the constraint required at the DB level... I think yo said 
> the first proposal you made allow that...
>
> I like this book when it comes to tricky design, it gives ideas on how to 
> solve the issues : 
> http://pragprog.com/book/bksqla/sql-antipatterns
>
> Richard
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM, MichaelF <mjf...@gmail.com <javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> The P3 record will have text and/or file information that relates to 
>> several P1 records, or several P2 records, and sometimes both several P1 
>> and several P2 records. The text info will be used to add to a document (a 
>> totally separate entity outside the db), and the file will be attached to 
>> the document. Also, the linking record will have start/end date fields that 
>> specify the valid dates for the relationship.
>>
>> So, a single P3 record (let's call it P3.1) might be associated with P1.4 
>> from 1/1/12 through 12/31/12; and also be associated with P1.6 from 6/1/12 
>> through 6/2/12; and also be associated with P2.6 record from 11/1/12 
>> through 11/11/12. That would be three separate linking records (regardless 
>> of which option we used): P1.4 => P3.1; P1.6 => P3.1, and P2.6 => P3.1.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:11:14 AM UTC-6, Richard wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe with more details about the nature of the information to store, it 
>>> could be easier to give an answer...
>>>
>>> You can also use the junction table to store weak entity attribute, that 
>>> could avoid the P3 table.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, MichaelF <mjf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This might be more of a SQL design question, but if web2py handles one 
>>>> better than another, that would be good to know.
>>>>
>>>> Suppose I have three 'parent' records ((P1, P2, and P3), and I want to 
>>>> link P1 records with P3 records, and also P2 records with P3 records. 
>>>> Several options:
>>>>
>>>> Option 1: obvious: one linking table per relationship
>>>> define_table('P1_P3_linker',
>>>>    Field('P1', db.P1), Field('P3', db.P3))
>>>> define_table('P2_P3_linker',
>>>>    Field('P2', db.P2), Field('P3', db.P3))
>>>>
>>>> Option 2: one linking table for all relationships; each record still 
>>>> links one record (P1 or P2) with one P3 record
>>>> define_table('P1_P2_P3',
>>>>    Field('P1', db.P1),
>>>>    Field('P2', db.P2),
>>>>    Field('P3', db.P3))
>>>>
>>>> Option 3: overload linking field and use a 'type'; each record still 
>>>> links one record (P1 or P2) with one P3 record
>>>> define_table('P1_P2_P3',
>>>>    Field('Table_type', 'string', IS_IN_SET(['P1', 'P2'])),
>>>>    Field('Table_key', 'integer'), # will be P1.id or P2.id
>>>>    Field('P3', db.P3))
>>>>
>>>> Using Option 2 I would relate a P1 to a P3 by populating the 
>>>> P1_P2_P3.P1 and P1_P2_P3.P3 fields, setting P1_P2_P3.P2 to NULL. I would 
>>>> relate a P2 to a P3 by populating the P1_P2_P3.P2 and P1_P2_P3.P3 fields, 
>>>> setting P1_P2_P3.P1 to NULL. This assumes the underlying db allows null 
>>>> fields for foreign keys.
>>>>
>>>> Using Option 3 I would relate a P1 to a P3 by setting Table_type to 
>>>> 'P1', then setting P1_P2_P3.Table_key to P1.id. No constraints can be set 
>>>> on this table using this option. This also assumes that the key field of 
>>>> the underlying db is integer.
>>>>
>>>> If it were just two tables (P1 and P2) relating to P3 then Option 1 
>>>> makes sense. I actually have P1 through P5 relating to P6. I suspect, 
>>>> though, that Option 1 is still the best, and that the others are "penny 
>>>> wise, pound foolish" in trying to avoid defining the additional linking 
>>>> tables.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts? Thanks.
>>>>
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