So perhaps poweredby apps should have a flag and flagged apps should always 
be on top. 

On Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:00:39 UTC-5, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote:
>
> Hi Massimo:
>
> Looking at http://web2py.com/poweredby it seems that there are both 
> examples and derivative projects listed.
>
> A derivative project imho is a site that is based on web2py as its core 
> and probably FOSS or installable. I would expect a listing to contain 
> projects like 
>
> * Muvuca 
> * Instant Press 
> * web2conf 
>
> Other intranet or closed sourced projects should be listed in a separate 
> listing, maybe as 'case studies'.
>
> Maybe an example to make it even clearer what a derivative project is:
>
> Symfony 2 is being used by eZ Publish and drupal
> - http://symfony.com/blog/symfony2-meets-drupal-8
> - http://symfony.com/blog/symfony2-meets-ez-publish-5
>
> And Ubuntu has derivatives like Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu etc
>
> Giving such web2py derivative projects visibility could increase awareness 
> and therefore increase contribution (I hope!)
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:35:40 AM UTC+8, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>>
>> Good ones are listed here:
>>
>> http://web2py.com/poweredby
>>
>> Example projects are here:
>>
>> http://web2py.com/appliances
>>
>> The majority of projects are closed source and used in intranets.
>>
>> massimo
>>
>> On Tuesday, 31 July 2012 12:23:22 UTC-5, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote:
>>>
>>> @Massimo is there a page somewhere listing the projects derived from 
>>> web2py? I think maybe one reason is the lack of awareness and visibility of 
>>> such web2py derivative projects
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:51:56 PM UTC+8, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree web2py needs a good CMS. The problem is that different people 
>>>> expect different things from a CMS. Some time ago I posted code for 
>>>> web2cms 
>>>> but nobody has contributed to it. :-(
>>>> Now I am trying put some of that logic into auth.wiki()
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 31 July 2012 10:21:24 UTC-5, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish to share that imho one of the strengths of web2py is its 
>>>>> dedication towards backwards compatibility. This is something not 
>>>>> frequently found in other frameworks, eg in Django or in Drupal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore, I believe that if a web2py project, be it CMS or otherwise 
>>>>> gains a sufficient following, it could possibly be very successful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my 5c
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:40:15 PM UTC+8, Mariano Reingart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Mariano Reingart <
>>>>>> reing...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Tim Michelsen 
>>>>>> > <timmichel...@gmx-topmail.de> wrote: 
>>>>>> >>> Instant Press is built by @Martin and I dont know if he gets 
>>>>>> contribution 
>>>>>> >>> Movu.ca is built by @rochacbruno (me) and I did not get too much 
>>>>>> >>> contribution (two or 3 people helped with ideas and translations) 
>>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >> Do you think muvuca could be staffed with the features shown in 
>>>>>> Mezzanine (I 
>>>>>> >> haven't know it before nor used it): 
>>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >>     Hierarchical page navigation 
>>>>>> >>     Save as draft and preview on site 
>>>>>> >>     Scheduled publishing 
>>>>>> >>     Drag-and-drop page ordering 
>>>>>> >>     WYSIWYG editing 
>>>>>> >>     In-line page editing 
>>>>>> >>     Drag-and-drop HTML5 forms builder with CSV export 
>>>>>> >>     SEO friendly URLs and meta data 
>>>>>> >>     Shopping cart module (Cartridge) 
>>>>>> >>     Configurable dashboard widgets 
>>>>>> >>     Blog engine 
>>>>>> >>     Tagging 
>>>>>> >>     User accounts and profiles with email verification 
>>>>>> >>     Translated to over 20 languages 
>>>>>> >>     Sharing via Facebook or Twitter 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Please, take a look at web2conf: 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > https://code.google.com/p/web2conf/ 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > It has many of your requested features (wyswyg online editor, 
>>>>>> > navigation bar, user profiles, twitter and blog/rss integration, 
>>>>>> > schedule/ratings, translations). We are adding something similar to 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> > shopping cart for the registration system. 
>>>>>> > Some features are made with plugins and/or are reusable outside the 
>>>>>> > conference management system. 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > If there is enough interest, we could improve and make it a general 
>>>>>> CMS. 
>>>>>> > Also, there are many companies and professionals that can be hired 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> > develop such a project, or contributing to existing ones. 
>>>>>> > A fundraising would be a good option to start this. 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, measuring "community" is difficult. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, django has a larger community here in Argentina, but 
>>>>>> earlier web-conference projects like PyCon-Tech failed to gain such 
>>>>>> traction anyway, and current alternatives are too complex IMHO and 
>>>>>> needs highly experienced developers. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would also take into consideration maintainability (backward 
>>>>>> compatibility, all-inclusive real full-stack features, compact code, 
>>>>>> etc.) 
>>>>>> Maybe you have to program a little more, but believe me, you will 
>>>>>> have 
>>>>>> a better control of the situation, specially when you need to extend 
>>>>>> or scale the app. 
>>>>>> As someone told before, most of the features of a CMS are simple to 
>>>>>> implement in web2py, maybe that's why there aren't many big and 
>>>>>> complex projects. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've made a blog post about this, telling the history of web2conf in 
>>>>>> Argentina (in Spanish, sorry): 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://pyconar.blogspot.com.ar/2012/07/sitio-web-de-pycon-argentina-un-poco-de.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In brief, I've made a mistake selecting PyCon-Tech in 2009 for our 
>>>>>> first conference. 
>>>>>> As it was built in django (and used by PyConUS), I thought it have 
>>>>>> enough community to at least fix bugs and survive. 
>>>>>> I was wrong. 
>>>>>> The project literally died and we even lost the web sites (django 
>>>>>> 0.96, unmaitained, eat up all of our server memory) 
>>>>>> Hopefully, with web2py, we could resurrect our old websites and go 
>>>>>> ahead the last two years. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can see it running here: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://ar.pycon.org/2012 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards, 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mariano Reingart 
>>>>>> http://www.sistemasagiles.com.ar 
>>>>>> http://reingart.blogspot.com 
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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