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2012/8/1 Luther Goh Lu Feng <elf...@yahoo.com> > Hi Massimo: > > Looking at http://web2py.com/poweredby it seems that there are both > examples and derivative projects listed. > > A derivative project imho is a site that is based on web2py as its core > and probably FOSS or installable. I would expect a listing to contain > projects like > > * Muvuca > * Instant Press > * web2conf > > Other intranet or closed sourced projects should be listed in a separate > listing, maybe as 'case studies'. > > Maybe an example to make it even clearer what a derivative project is: > > Symfony 2 is being used by eZ Publish and drupal > - http://symfony.com/blog/symfony2-meets-drupal-8 > - http://symfony.com/blog/symfony2-meets-ez-publish-5 > > And Ubuntu has derivatives like Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu etc > > Giving such web2py derivative projects visibility could increase awareness > and therefore increase contribution (I hope!) > > > On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:35:40 AM UTC+8, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: >> >> Good ones are listed here: >> >> http://web2py.com/poweredby >> >> Example projects are here: >> >> http://web2py.com/appliances >> >> The majority of projects are closed source and used in intranets. >> >> massimo >> >> On Tuesday, 31 July 2012 12:23:22 UTC-5, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote: >>> >>> @Massimo is there a page somewhere listing the projects derived from >>> web2py? I think maybe one reason is the lack of awareness and visibility of >>> such web2py derivative projects >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:51:56 PM UTC+8, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree web2py needs a good CMS. The problem is that different people >>>> expect different things from a CMS. Some time ago I posted code for web2cms >>>> but nobody has contributed to it. :-( >>>> Now I am trying put some of that logic into auth.wiki() >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, 31 July 2012 10:21:24 UTC-5, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I wish to share that imho one of the strengths of web2py is its >>>>> dedication towards backwards compatibility. This is something not >>>>> frequently found in other frameworks, eg in Django or in Drupal. >>>>> >>>>> Therefore, I believe that if a web2py project, be it CMS or otherwise >>>>> gains a sufficient following, it could possibly be very successful. >>>>> >>>>> Just my 5c >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:40:15 PM UTC+8, Mariano Reingart wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Mariano Reingart < >>>>>> reing...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Tim Michelsen >>>>>> > <timmichel...@gmx-topmail.de> wrote: >>>>>> >>> Instant Press is built by @Martin and I dont know if he gets >>>>>> contribution >>>>>> >>> Movu.ca is built by @rochacbruno (me) and I did not get too much >>>>>> >>> contribution (two or 3 people helped with ideas and translations) >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Do you think muvuca could be staffed with the features shown in >>>>>> Mezzanine (I >>>>>> >> haven't know it before nor used it): >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Hierarchical page navigation >>>>>> >> Save as draft and preview on site >>>>>> >> Scheduled publishing >>>>>> >> Drag-and-drop page ordering >>>>>> >> WYSIWYG editing >>>>>> >> In-line page editing >>>>>> >> Drag-and-drop HTML5 forms builder with CSV export >>>>>> >> SEO friendly URLs and meta data >>>>>> >> Shopping cart module (Cartridge) >>>>>> >> Configurable dashboard widgets >>>>>> >> Blog engine >>>>>> >> Tagging >>>>>> >> User accounts and profiles with email verification >>>>>> >> Translated to over 20 languages >>>>>> >> Sharing via Facebook or Twitter >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Please, take a look at web2conf: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > https://code.google.com/p/**web2conf/<https://code.google.com/p/web2conf/> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > It has many of your requested features (wyswyg online editor, >>>>>> > navigation bar, user profiles, twitter and blog/rss integration, >>>>>> > schedule/ratings, translations). We are adding something similar to >>>>>> a >>>>>> > shopping cart for the registration system. >>>>>> > Some features are made with plugins and/or are reusable outside the >>>>>> > conference management system. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If there is enough interest, we could improve and make it a general >>>>>> CMS. >>>>>> > Also, there are many companies and professionals that can be hired >>>>>> to >>>>>> > develop such a project, or contributing to existing ones. >>>>>> > A fundraising would be a good option to start this. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW, measuring "community" is difficult. >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, django has a larger community here in Argentina, but >>>>>> earlier web-conference projects like PyCon-Tech failed to gain such >>>>>> traction anyway, and current alternatives are too complex IMHO and >>>>>> needs highly experienced developers. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would also take into consideration maintainability (backward >>>>>> compatibility, all-inclusive real full-stack features, compact code, >>>>>> etc.) >>>>>> Maybe you have to program a little more, but believe me, you will >>>>>> have >>>>>> a better control of the situation, specially when you need to extend >>>>>> or scale the app. >>>>>> As someone told before, most of the features of a CMS are simple to >>>>>> implement in web2py, maybe that's why there aren't many big and >>>>>> complex projects. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've made a blog post about this, telling the history of web2conf in >>>>>> Argentina (in Spanish, sorry): >>>>>> >>>>>> http://pyconar.blogspot.com.**ar/2012/07/sitio-web-de-pycon-** >>>>>> argentina-un-poco-de.html<http://pyconar.blogspot.com.ar/2012/07/sitio-web-de-pycon-argentina-un-poco-de.html> >>>>>> >>>>>> In brief, I've made a mistake selecting PyCon-Tech in 2009 for our >>>>>> first conference. >>>>>> As it was built in django (and used by PyConUS), I thought it have >>>>>> enough community to at least fix bugs and survive. >>>>>> I was wrong. >>>>>> The project literally died and we even lost the web sites (django >>>>>> 0.96, unmaitained, eat up all of our server memory) >>>>>> Hopefully, with web2py, we could resurrect our old websites and go >>>>>> ahead the last two years. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can see it running here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://ar.pycon.org/2012 >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mariano Reingart >>>>>> http://www.sistemasagiles.com.**ar <http://www.sistemasagiles.com.ar> >>>>>> http://reingart.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- > > > > --
