As someone coming from the TurboGears environment, I would vote to keep the name the same. TG suffered/suffers greatly (in my opinion) from the change from V1 to V2. Lots of us were lost in the change. I think it's really important for web2py to remain stable. That includes the name. Logo changes don't bother me but changing the name or the primary focus of the project would be devastating. The web2py image and website is far superior to others out there (I do not follow the django project at all so my comments don't include that).

Just my opinion on the conversation.

    -Jim

On 12/1/2011 11:33 AM, Nik Go wrote:
+1. The name isn't so bad. We could all probably name other projects with worse names.

The packaging, if that is really important to the community would help improve the image. Django's packaging is not suprising since it was originally developed internally in a news company - who knows more stuff about smokes and mirrors

On Thursday, December 1, 2011, Alan Etkin wrote:

    I am not sure of the benefits of changing the brand image identity
    with much frequence. I think that part of the sucess of a framework
    like django (meaning that it is so popular) is that "graphically" it
    has a real fine work and It has preserved a very strong image identity
    (color, tipography).
    The brand design of web2py should be enhanced but keeping a brand
    style. There is a lot of experts in visual design who could help if
    there were some cooperation mechanism suitable for this project (is
    there?). Think of schools of design for example (Buenos Aires is
    overstocked with designers).

    On Dec 1, 7:42 am, Martín Mulone <mulone.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > Another logo contest is comming?... :)
    >
    > 2011/12/1 Massimo Di Pierro <massimo.dipie...@gmail.com>
    >
    >
    >
    > > I do not like names that have google search conflicts. Others like
    > > that because their search results go up.
    > > We had a different name and I was threatened to be sued. I
    spend $500
    > > to trademark web2py.
    >
    > > Can anybody find a better name that has no search conflicts,
    is not
    > > trademarked, and is willing to donate $500?
    >
    > > It does take time and effort in building a brand and we are
    succeeded.
    > > We should not start again. We can give animal names to various
    stable
    > > version if you like.
    >
    > > Massimo
    >
    > > On Nov 30, 9:46 am, Omi Chiba <ochib...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > > >I love the framework but hate the name Web2py
    >
    > > > Honestly, I agree. Django sounds cool but not web2py. I like
    gluon
    > > > better :)
    >
    > > > On Nov 30, 9:16 am, António Ramos <ramstei...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > > > > I love the framework but hate the name Web2py
    > > > > Everyone uses names related to animals, objects,etc. At
    least it gives
    > > a
    > > > > better change for a nice logo.
    >
    > > > > Best regards
    >
    > > > > 2011/11/30 stefaan <stefaan.hi...@gmail.com>
    >
    > > > > > Web2py default layouts certainly have come a long way
    since the
    > > (IMHO,
    > > > > > quite awful :p )  fluorescent orange and black-green looks.
    >
    > > > > > I do seem to miss some "best-practices" documentation
    about how to
    > > > > > effectively apply themes to a web2py application. The
    downloadable
    > > > > > themes do not always properly display the newer widgets
    (like
    > > > > > sqlform.grid), leaving me (as a css nitwit) not much
    option but to
    > > use
    > > > > > the default layout. Unlike web2py functionality, the css
    classes do
    > > > > > not seem to be kept backward compatible (your layout
    won't be
    > > > > > overwritten if you upgrade to a newer web2py, but if you
    want the
    > > > > > newer features to render properly you may have to
    manually merge old
    > > > > > layouts with newer layouts)
    >
    > > > > > <handwaving>
    > > > > > I'm wondering if there aren't any WYSIWYM web layout
    solutions (what-
    > > > > > you-see-is-what-you-mean, a web equivalent to LaTeX
    macros for
    > > > > > printable documents), e.g. providing standardized css
    classes that
    > > all
    > > > > > scaffolding applications/widgets/user views ought to
    restrict
    > > > > > themselves to. Themes would also have to be implemented
    in terms of
    > > > > > those standardized css classes, hopefully leading to a
    smoother
    > > > > > theming experience. Approaches like the "ui" argument in
    sqlform.grid
    > > > > > do not seem ideal to me.
    > > > > > </handwaving>
    >
    > --
    > http://martin.tecnodoc.com.ar

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