Excellent testimony, you could prepare an academic version to
incorporate the library of examples of web2py.


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2011/10/28 peter <peterchutchin...@gmail.com>

> I have just written an ecommerce site in web2py. ukjazz.net. At the
> moment it is in demo form, so you can buy things for free when you
> click pay now. You will find that then it has things like view
> downloads, and view order history. It also has a facility for the
> record labels to look at their sales. I orginally choose Zencart
> because it was open source (php). It is far too complex, 4000 files!
> It was a very tricky business modifying it to my needs. I also hated
> PHP etc. I am expreinced enough at software support to know that
> launching a site with such a complex software base was creating a rod
> for my back in the future. I looked around at lots of approaches like
> Django and ruby for rails etc. I ended up with web2py and python. My
> main fear was that Web2py looked to good to be true, and I follow the
> motto 'If something looks too good to be true it probably is too good
> to be true'. However web2py delivered fantastically. I have a lot of
> exprience both in academia and outside it. I find that Web2py
> incorporates a lot of good practice. The end result is extraordinary.
> The huge complex zencart php program has been replaced by somthing
> relatively straightforward and elegant. Something so much easier to
> develop and maintain. Writing it was not a lot more work than
> modifying zencart to my needs. The actual ecommerce bit was somewhat
> less than a months work, and remember I started not knowing python and
> not knowing web2py, so a lot of that was working out how to do things.
>
> So I think that web2py is well suited to ecommerce. The book is pretty
> good, the forum extraordinarily helpful. The rate of development great
> too. Prior to this project I was very experienced programmer, but had
> real experience of web programming or SQL. Seeing how horrible web
> programming can be, Web2py has created a virtual machine on top of the
> web, and this virtual machine is much nicer to use. It has also
> sheltered me from having to learn the ugliness of SQL.
>
> So thanks to all those involved in this great project. Thanks in
> particular of course to Massimo. Massimo reminds me of Nikluas Wirth.
> I used to devlop programs in C and at that time they were very
> difficult to debug. I then tried Modula 2. When my progams compiled
> cleanly they usually worked straight away. The elegance of Modula 2 is
> similar to me the elgance of Web2py. (This is a double edged
> compliment as Modula 2 became unsupported due to the arrival of ADA
> and C++, a fate it did not deserve). I was a programmer before I
> became a lecturer. Lecturing on programming made me understand
> programming a lot better. Both Niklaus and Massimo encompassed that
> kind of learning in better tools which incorporate good practice.  It
> is extraodinary the critisism that Massimo gets from some quarters
> because he has made a very large number of very wise choices in the
> design of Web2py. The simplicity of the solutions do not always meke
> this clear. The team also manage a rather extraodinary feat in both
> keeping Web2py kind of stable and yet developing at a rate at the same
> time. The biggest problem is that the most useful things are not yet
> documented at all. However I would much rather use them undocumented
> than have to wait until they are fully tested and documented.
>
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> Peter
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> On Oct 28, 9:21 pm, Gour <g...@atmarama.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:17:51 -0200
> >
> > Bruno Rocha <rochacbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > VIDEO:http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/188
> >
> > Watched video today...very nice presentation fo Web2py!
> >
> > One question: Massimo mentioned that web2py is going to move to github
> soon and
> > I wonder whether one will be able to still use hg to fetch the code?
> >
> > Moreover, what about other projects like Instant Press being hosted at
> > Bitbucket?
> >
> > Few days ago I had to move one SilverStripe site to WP not being able to
> use IP
> > where some basic things like rendering of unordered lists is not proper
> (no
> > bullets).
> >
> > Otoh, I really do not want to delve into PHP web programming, and would
> like to
> > deploy Web2py for all my web needs, so having more web2py stuff under one
> > umbrella (even if it's called github) might be good and would (hopefully)
> > result in better docs as well as quicker fixes for web2py-related
> > projects like Instant Press...
> >
> > One more concern: Massimo answered during the show that Web2py is mostly
> used
> > in Intranet. so I wonder if there is, in general, enthusiasm withing this
> > community to push out to build Internet sites as well and having
> > CMS/blog/ecommerce modules available or is web2py simply more suitable
> for the
> > former use-case?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Gour
> >
> > --
> > One who restrains his senses, keeping them under full control,
> > and fixes his consciousness upon Me, is known as a man of
> > steady intelligence.
> >
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