That conversation is over my head in a lot of ways.  Despite my time on this 
list I'm a rank beginner in Python and Web2py.  I've never been confused 
about the lack of imports in some programs, or the source of db.xxx vs. 
dict(), but then I'm reading the book :)  I can't imagine anyone using 
web2py alone to learn python, though admittedly it seems to make the process 
much less painful.   I sort of view web2py as a gateway to learning Python 
in that it gives me an understandable framework from which to launch my 
investigations.  I haven't looked too long at Django, but I don't think that 
you could say the same about it re: learning Python.



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