Why not attach the wizard data to the session? -- Thadeus
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:11 PM, mart <msenecal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Massimo, > > Yeah, I guess it was kid of late... I'll try again, in shorter > version (or at least in less badly organized thoughts): > > * great wizard. options are huge as to where it can lead. > > * Would be great if we could store/save the data we set in the wizard > in a user_wiz_templates_GENERIC.table (this ones contains the inputted > information on wizard first use, for later retrieval - if I am not > wrong, your wizard will grow over time in its offerings (already, > after less than a week, we can define table tables, maybe next you > will have another drop to link that data to an existing apps DB". So > already there is worthiness in having the option of keeping this > "template" around. > > *You (and others too) hold some mighty cool knowledge where people (me > included) can ask just about anything under the sun and where you > would reply in a matter of minutes with something like "put THIS in > the view and THAT in the controller" -> this being blank slate for a > sidebar for example. Well, maybe we can have the option of storing > some of this great stuff in one of the wizard tables? I.e. going > through the wizard.... "yes, I think I would like left and right side > bars", so I use a drop down (or a check box, or maybe the wizard will > include some drag&drop jquery features so folks could simply drag the > "sidebar component" on some sort of design/layout canvas? See what i > am getting at? A little bit like the widget builder, but at "wizard > time" and mostly for layout purposes... > > perhaps, the wizard could have some EZ CSS snippets (blanks slates) > that we can choose, and made available on *save*? > > I got this because when I tried out the ozard, my broswer had lot of > tables open, one being an open instance of the wizard. Since I had > closed the wrong tab and lost my template, I used the open instance, > clicked on *reset*,and started over (so i thought). I started by the > first input box (obviously), then all of a sudden, all the data I had > inputted earlier filled the wizard form! So, i thought "great! we can > save to templates!" - but was really just saved in memory. Would be > nice to save them in a table. > > > Thanks again, > mart :) > > On Oct 23, 11:03 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > I am not sure I fully understand but this is not because of your nice > > explanation. Rather me not being fully awake yet. > > > > What it does already: > > - The wizard saves the state in <app>/wizard.metadata and if you try > > reopen that app, it will revert to that state, which you can modify > > - The wizard does not read code so any manual change you make will be > > lost UNLESS you create additional models and controller not handled by > > the wizard. They will be ignored and thus preserved. > > > > What we could add: > > - Versioning. web2py admin already has mercurial integration with web > > based "hg init" and "hg commit". So we could a button to commit every > > time a new wizard app is generated. It would be really nice to a "hg > > revert" interface. It is trivial but not the next thing on the todo > > list. > > > > I think you also suggest a mechanism for detecting errors in user > > code. Something that checks for missing things. That is hard. I would > > not know how to do it. I do have script that "fix" a layout into a > > web2py layout but they are not very polished. > > > > Massimo > > > > On Oct 23, 12:56 am, mart <msenecal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > Love the wiZ2py (my daughter coined that one, because she's six and > > > always sounds strange when over-tired and has the giggles - at least > > > that's what it sounded like). I do look forward to many more > > > iterations, all as great and fascinating as the next I sure. > > > > > was thinking... there are so many things that you can be do with the > > > wizard, and I doubt you will be lacking any ideas, but here's mine > > > anyways. I spend a lot of time, or rather often drift off on tangents > > > (that's better), mostly by accident, where, for example, there was an > > > thread on sidebars, something I never tried (yes, I"m still new to web > > > apps)... And I am very certain, that many folks drift off and get lost > > > while exploring web2py as well (just a normal thing I would think with > > > fun and fascinating things)... anyways, the side bars as an example... > > > I tried Massimo's tip, a bit of tweaking, then experimenting, then > > > Jonathan jumped in and mentioned the HTML5 sidebars (great, something > > > more but related to look at and try out), then Bruno posts something > > > he does for his Car Sale app... then, well the night is young... > > > > > yes, there is a point;) so anyways, for some reason, I found my self > > > on that EZ CSS site, well... need I say more? what a great place when > > > you have a few hours, and feel like trying stuff out! So I did, and as > > > it turns out, I did not massacre everything (aesthetically speaking) > > > although most did turn out to be pretty ugly, admittedly. But that > > > wasn't the point either... the point is: I wouldn't be able to > > > reproduce the steps I took where something did turn out decent enough > > > to look at a second or third time. saving and/or packing the app is > > > often not the best solution, because you can't really retrace your > > > steps there either.... Now the wizard :) Wouldn't be a huge thing > > > (well, I don't think it would) to either make the wizard (or > > > extensions of the wizard) available @ "run time", like perhaps one of > > > those very cool widgets we get to have access to with the widget > > > builder (without having to leave your page to boot!). Oh, and with the > > > built-in "changelog" to keep track (right there is a pretty good > > > match, wizard + changelog, keeping track of the diffs between one > > > click of the wizard to the next). > > > > > Here's an example: I get to that EZ CSS (fully armed with a brand new > > > app ready to be I create an app (most likely using the wizard) and I > > > start playing. Miraculously, I do something where my wife does not > > > feel she needs to look at me with shame... ;) I could always at that > > > point save and pack up the app. but then, with the stuff I did, most > > > of them bad (and that's important), it would take me for ever to > > > filter out the good stuff amongst the bad... Would be nice to have the > > > the wizard (or the always accessible wizard plugin (or widget?) > > > available, to come to the rescue, and simply save some settings (all > > > stuff it should be able to see, like those CSS settings - the previous > > > settings may have yielded strange behaviour, but the current settings > > > may have something I like - so click on widget builder, choose wizard > > > (option "make me a template") then at least some good parts would be > > > accessible ti re-use, fix-up, or create another app based on that > > > template) - maybe a little like the "Recipe" app, but with the wizard? > > > I'm thinking something that wouldn't add layouts to my pages (although > > > the layouts are definitely) cool, but rather something that would > > > maybe re-insert those "pure CSS toggle" switched on my spanking new > > > blank page (would they be like "auto-widgets"?) > > > > > anyways, just thinking out loud about something I, personally, would > > > find useful (a couple of table dedicated to "Mart's custom templates > > > using the Massimo wiZ2py"). > > > > > Thanks for reading and apologies for the lengthy post (again) > > > Mart :) > > > > > PS, if interested in the feed back, I will be presenting the first rev > > > (prototype quality) of a very unique build system, where the the guy > > > standing in front of the crowed will be none other than WEB2PY (I'm > > > keeping the look of the app "as is", where the word "WEB2PY"and the > > > Logo is predominant (no, not just because I really suck at making > > > things look nice, but mostly because i really do like the green > > > sripes!). I will post relevant feed back, as the front end, the web2by > > > front end, will generate, lots of comments and/or interest - i expect > > > thousands of hist in the first day. > > > > > On Oct 22, 4:37 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > > > > i would take a patch. :-) > > > > > > On Oct 22, 1:50 pm, guruyaya <guruy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I think a button with a plus sign, near every table field, is more > in > > > > > intuitive, the enter. Don't remove the enter, just add the plus > sign > > > > > too. > > > > > If you don't do that, for the very least, explain that adding > another > > > > > field is done with enter as well. > > > > > > > On Oct 22, 10:36 am, dederocks <dediro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for the fix! works with python 2.7 too :-)! > > > > > > > > On 21 oct, 19:43, "mr.freeze" <nat...@freezable.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is very handy. I got an error on step 1 with Python 2.6. > I think > > > > > > > line 62 of wizard.py should be: > > > > > > > from gluon.contrib.simplejson import loads > > > > > > > > > On Oct 21, 7:21 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > app/wizard.metadata > > > > > > > > > > it is a pickle > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 21, 5:40 am, blackthorne <francisco....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Back from Egypt and I seem to be looking at something > completely > > > > > > > > > new... > > > > > > > > > new website, new wizard thing, great work! > > > > > > > > > > > I became curious about this. > > > > > > > > > Does this wizard keep a record in some language such as > YAML? > > > > > > > > > > > It would be nice so that you could share one simple text > file with the > > > > > > > > > pure application definition, useful for debugging in groups > like this, > > > > > > > > > useful to share apps or to generate other wizards by simply > defining > > > > > > > > > in YAML the fields and the prepopulated values.. > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 21, 6:55 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >http://vimeo.com/16048970 > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I am going to sleep a few ours.... > > > > >
