Hi,

Love the wiZ2py (my daughter coined that one, because she's six and
always sounds strange when over-tired and has the giggles  - at least
that's what it sounded like).  I do look forward to many more
iterations, all as great and fascinating as the next I sure.

was thinking... there are so many things that you can be do with the
wizard, and I doubt you will be lacking any ideas, but here's mine
anyways. I spend a lot of time, or rather often drift off on tangents
(that's better), mostly by accident, where, for example, there was an
thread on sidebars, something I never tried (yes, I"m still new to web
apps)... And I am very certain, that many folks drift off and get lost
while exploring web2py as well (just a normal thing I would think with
fun and fascinating things)... anyways, the side bars as an example...
I tried Massimo's tip, a bit of tweaking, then experimenting, then
Jonathan jumped in and mentioned the HTML5 sidebars (great, something
more but related to look at and try out), then Bruno posts something
he does for his Car Sale app... then, well the night is young...

yes, there is a point;) so anyways, for some reason, I found my self
on that EZ CSS site, well... need I say more? what a great place when
you have a few hours, and feel like trying stuff out! So I did, and as
it turns out, I did not massacre everything (aesthetically speaking)
although most did turn out to be pretty ugly, admittedly. But that
wasn't the point either... the point is: I wouldn't be able to
reproduce the steps I took where something did turn out decent enough
to look at a second or third time. saving and/or packing the app is
often not the best solution, because you can't really retrace your
steps there either.... Now the wizard :) Wouldn't be a huge thing
(well, I don't think it would) to either make the wizard (or
extensions of the wizard) available @ "run time", like perhaps one of
those very cool widgets we get to have access to with the widget
builder (without having to leave your page to boot!). Oh, and with the
built-in "changelog" to keep track (right there is a pretty good
match, wizard + changelog, keeping track of the diffs between one
click of the wizard to the next).

Here's an example: I get to that EZ CSS (fully armed with a brand new
app ready to be   I create an app (most likely using the wizard) and I
start playing. Miraculously, I do something where my wife does not
feel she needs to look at me with shame... ;) I could always at that
point save and pack up the app. but then, with the stuff I did, most
of them bad (and that's important), it would take me for ever to
filter out the good stuff amongst the bad... Would be nice to have the
the wizard (or the always accessible wizard plugin (or widget?)
available, to come to the rescue, and simply save some settings (all
stuff it should be able to see, like those CSS settings - the previous
settings may have yielded strange behaviour, but the current settings
may have something I like - so click on widget builder, choose wizard
(option "make me a template") then at least some good parts would be
accessible ti re-use, fix-up, or create another app based on that
template) - maybe a little like the "Recipe" app, but with the wizard?
I'm thinking something that wouldn't add layouts to my pages (although
the layouts are definitely) cool, but rather something that would
maybe re-insert those "pure CSS toggle" switched on my spanking new
blank page (would they be like "auto-widgets"?)

anyways, just thinking out loud about something I, personally, would
find useful (a couple of table dedicated to "Mart's custom templates
using the Massimo wiZ2py").

Thanks for reading and apologies for the lengthy post (again)
Mart :)

PS, if interested in the feed back, I will be presenting the first rev
(prototype quality) of a very unique build system, where the the guy
standing in front of the crowed will be none other than WEB2PY (I'm
keeping the look of the app "as is", where the word "WEB2PY"and the
Logo is predominant (no, not just because I really suck at making
things look nice, but mostly because i really do like the green
sripes!). I will post relevant feed back, as the front end, the web2by
front end, will generate, lots of comments and/or interest - i expect
thousands of hist in the first day.


On Oct 22, 4:37 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> i would take a patch. :-)
>
> On Oct 22, 1:50 pm, guruyaya <guruy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think a button with a plus sign, near every table field, is more in
> > intuitive, the enter. Don't remove the enter, just add the plus sign
> > too.
> > If you don't do that, for the very least, explain that adding another
> > field is done with enter as well.
>
> > On Oct 22, 10:36 am, dederocks <dediro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Thanks for the fix! works with python 2.7 too :-)!
>
> > > On 21 oct, 19:43, "mr.freeze" <nat...@freezable.com> wrote:
>
> > > > This is very handy. I got an error on step 1 with Python 2.6.  I think
> > > > line 62 of wizard.py should be:
> > > > from gluon.contrib.simplejson import loads
>
> > > > On Oct 21, 7:21 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > app/wizard.metadata
>
> > > > > it is a pickle
>
> > > > > On Oct 21, 5:40 am, blackthorne <francisco....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Back from Egypt and I seem to be looking at something completely
> > > > > > new...
> > > > > > new website, new wizard thing, great work!
>
> > > > > > I became curious about this.
> > > > > > Does this wizard keep a record in some language such as YAML?
>
> > > > > > It would be nice so that you could share one simple text file with 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > pure application definition, useful for debugging in groups like 
> > > > > > this,
> > > > > > useful to share apps or to generate other wizards by simply defining
> > > > > > in YAML the fields and the prepopulated values..
>
> > > > > > Best regards
>
> > > > > > On Oct 21, 6:55 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >http://vimeo.com/16048970
>
> > > > > > > Now I am going to sleep a few ours....
>
>

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