Massimo: First this is noble idea, we need a point man like you Massimo whom we describe the function and put the money we are willing to pay for the function at your disposal, you have a say whether the money is enough or not enough and clarity of the task before contacting the associate, then once everything is in order, the associate is contacted, the description and the fee will be discussed and the associate takes the description and performs the work and hand it to Massimo and the fee will be paid by Massimo ( this one is sure, it is Massimo who has the money and pays the associate). The description of the work is in writing. All evaluations, conduct, rules, and etc must be a joint task of all.
Debebe On May 23, 11:20 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > Getafreelancer is what some of my students use to get their homework > done. Does not resonate very well with me. :-( > > Massimo > > On May 23, 10:15 pm, Álvaro Justen <alv...@justen.eng.br> wrote: > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 20:18, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > I have some problems: > > > > 1) people ask me to contribute to more projects that I can handle. > > > 2) I am good at kicking off a project (20% of the work) but I am not > > > the best person to bring it to production (the other 80%) of the work. > > > 3) I want to delegate some of these projects to users I trust. I need > > > to better keep track of you, the users, your skills and interests. > > > > You and I have some problems in common: > > > 1) you are an individual or you own a small consulting company and > > > you find hard to compete for large projects > > > 2) you want to use web2py but you need to sell web2py before you can > > > sell yoru services. > > > 3) you need legal help (sample non-disclosure agreement, sample > > > contracts, etc.) > > > 4) for large projects you need to find people who can help you with > > > development (you man need a designer, a coder, a system administrator, > > > a GAE expert, etc). > > > 5) you want somebody else to handle advertising for you > > > > I want to help. I want to help you find development jobs, network, and > > > compete for larger projects by providing some assistance. > > > > I am about to create something like an association of web2py > > > professionals with a portal that provides web sites for members, > > > repository of legal forms, job posting, progress tracking, feedback > > > forms, etc. Here is the basic idea: we do not advertise web2py, we > > > advertise the association and its members. you find a client? you keep > > > all the money. You want to offer your client long term support or code > > > review? the association will sell that to the client directly > > > directly. You want to be listed as a member? Follow a code of conduct > > > (basically use approved tools and ask your clients to review your work > > > publicly). You already have a consulting company or an employer? You > > > can have the company listed as an associate under some conditions. > > > > We can turn our group into a large international consulting > > > organization overnight. There would be no contract between the > > > association and you other than a code of conduct that you will have to > > > follow to be listed and that I am about to wrote. You can continue to > > > work as an individual or with your existing company. The association > > > will just help when you need help. > > > > The association may also partner with some member to provide venture > > > capital in the form of code development (and perhaps money but not > > > immediately) for specific projects submitted to the association, in > > > exchange of shares. > > > > I have already incorporated to do this. This will be independent and > > > complementary form web2py itself and web2py would not be the onlytool > > > in the association approved toolkit. > > > > For now the toolkit will include: web2py, ubuntu, postgresql, jquery, > > > andgoogleapp engine. You as an individual or a company can provide > > > services based on other tools but the association will endorse these > > > tools because we can easily find people skilled in them and you, as a > > > member, will be required to endorse these tools as good tools and > > > demonstrate your skills in some of them (not all of them). > > > > web2py is atool. We will all outlive web2py. But we have created > > > something important here. A community of skilled professional that > > > share some experience. I want to see this grow with web2py and beyond > > > web2py later. I want to see us compete with large consulting > > > companies. I want to do it using a new business model in which there > > > are no shareholders to take a cut of your work since they would not be > > > providing any means of production to you (you already own a laptop and > > > that is your office), yet I want to provide the other benefits that a > > > large corporation can offer (a single image, consistency, > > > reliability). > > > > Not sure if there should be an admission criteria. I could use your > > > feedback about this. > > > > Comments? Thought? You do not have to commit to anything now but who > > > is interested? > > > I'm very interested on this. > > What about integrate this system with third-party ones? Like > > getafreelancer, oDesk etc. So we don't need to start 'from scratch' > > when dealing with trusting a programmer or not. > > Please, let me know what I can do to help. > > > -- > > Álvaro Justen - Turicas > > http://blog.justen.eng.br/ > > 21 9898-0141
