On Mar 29, 1:00 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
> Remotely administer error tickets from your mobile phone!

You get error tickets?  Really?!   ...     ;-)

But, actually - it would be nice to get private tweets from sites you
manage w/ links you could follow remotely if you wanted

>
> -Thadeus
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:12 AM, blackthorne <francisco....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey!
>
> > Nice to see this layout idea. I think I've suggested it a good while
> > ago.
> > One interesting thing about this approach is that you can also great
> > different grades of complexity. E.g. if you want to create a
> > minimalistic theme without images, and Tweets on the admin page you
> > can simply hide those divs (in the CSS) and change whatever you need
> > so that you can keep what you want while the html remains unmodified.
> > Another interesting idea would be to create a mobile version so that
> > you can administrate your framework remotely from your phone.
>
> > Yes, I'm not just talking about the welcome.app but the admin too!
>
> > Best Regards
>
> > On Mar 29, 2:57 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Careful -
>
> >> HTML5 is behind schedule, and expected to reach standard stage in 2022
> >> (?!)...
> > That milestone is more "political" than technical. It is expected a
> > stable HTML5 technical spec way before.
>
> >> Hoewever, the new canvas element is supported already (so that flash /
> >> silverlight, etc. isn't needed) --- and IE-9 might even do will with
> >> this (the preview is out now - it seems pretty fast).
>
> >> I woulnd't worry about too much more than what everyone else is
> >> expecting in HTML-5:  the things browsers broadly support now, and are
> >> useful (i.e. the canvas element, and more solid svg support, among
> >> them).
>
> >> - Yarko
>
> >> On Mar 29, 7:38 am, Christopher Steel <chris.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Great!,
>
> >> > I am going to do a little research and then put together some
> >> > options / samples. Two other items I am going to look into (which are
> >> > also suggested on the ez.css page) are html5 semantics and WAI ARIA
> >> > landmark roles. Roles would require a code tweak or flag as some
> >> > (most?)  validation sites do not support it yet, html5 I need to look
> >> > into a bit more. html 5 is semantic and I am wondering if this could
> >> > conflict with our current naming conventions, validation and so
> >> > forth.
>
> >> > Anyway it is a great opportunity to check all this stuff out and we
> >> > could always we could offer some "unsupported" / "off label" options
> >> > that give people more choice while maintaining our compatibility
> >> > commitments first adopters in the main. For our organization WAI-ARIA
> >> > landmarks is really important.
>
> >> > Cheers,
>
> >> > C.
>
> >> > On 28 mar, 13:39, Yarko Tymciurak <resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > A few points I would make (as I write this, I am aware this probably
> >> > > should be moved to the development list):
>
> >> > > -  ez.css is no more than a layout / framing convention;
> >> > >    -  staying compatible is easy (and it provides simple layout
> >> > > control);
> >> > >    -  it uses a useful convention of css class nameing, namely:  <pkg>-
> >> > > <class>,  e.g.:  "ez-wr" -
> >> > >       - we should stick with that, ie. something like  "w2p" for all
> >> > > web2py named css classes and id selectors;
> >> > >         - note: the major difference between
> >> > >           - class selectors (.something) and
> >> > >           - id selectors (#something) is id selectors can link to a
> >> > > part of a page, and javascript uses id selectors;
>
> >> > > I'm not sure specifically what Massimo meant by "ez.css and jquery.ui
> >> > > naming conventions";  we should get specific about this.
>
> >> > > ez has the concept of
> >> > > - wrappers, (ez-wr, ez-mr)
> >> > > - style containers (i.e. layout containers)
> >> > > - content containers (i.e. ez-box)
> >> > > - sizing elements;
>
> >> > > and more...
>
> >> > > jquery has at least these conventions:
> >> > > -http://jqueryui.com/docs/Theming/API
> >> > > -http://wiki.jqueryui.com/Position
>
> >> > > Note that ThemeRoller is a way to apply to PARTS of a user layout,
> >> > > e.g.:
>
> >> > > - font settings;
> >> > > - corner radius;
> >> > > - header;
> >> > > - toolbar;
> >> > > - content;
> >> > > - clicables;
> >> > > - highlight;
> >> > > - errors;
> >> > > - modal;
> >> > > - drop shadoes;
>
> >> > > By combining ez (positioning) and jquery-ui (and staying consistent w/
> >> > > themeroller), we should be able to build-up a web2py-unique packaging,
> >> > > with potentially useful extensions (e.g. for form layout and theming).
>
> >> > > This seems, to me, to be a very promising direction.
>
> >> > > - Yarko
> >> > > Noteab
>
> >> > > On Mar 27, 7:44 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> >> > > > I like the idea. It would be ideal if you could do it using ez.css 
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > jquery.ui naming conventions.
>
> >> > > > Massimo
>
> >> > > > On 27 Mar, 15:23, Christopher Steel <chris.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > The Zengarden css code is not "open source" but we can easily 
> >> > > > > create
> >> > > > > our own. I am just finishing up a css based theme for a client that
> >> > > > > uses div's and flow with a two columns (basically the same 
> >> > > > > appearance
> >> > > > > as the current web2py default layout). I would be more than happy 
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > create on using the current web2py names, images and so forth and 
> >> > > > > can
> >> > > > > license it as we like.
>
> >> > > > > We could include it as a documented option and give it a name like
> >> > > > > base-2c-flow.css or base-tableless.css
> >> > > > > Let me know soon cause I am moving on to non css stuff in the next 
> >> > > > > few
> >> > > > > days.
>
> >> > > > > Cheers,
>
> >> > > > > Christopher Steel.
>
> >> > > > > On Mar 25, 5:33 am, Benigno <bca...@albendas.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > @mdmcginn: I do think that having a proven flexible div setup 
> >> > > > > > that
> >> > > > > > allows for so many different options, is precisely what you need 
> >> > > > > > on
> >> > > > > > the original layout. What Zengarden does, is prove the 
> >> > > > > > flexibility of
> >> > > > > > CSS but that flexibility is nothing if your div structure is not
> >> > > > > > correctly thought out and matured.
>
> >> > > > > > On the minus side, however, and this is my personal opinion, I 
> >> > > > > > think
> >> > > > > > that most Zengarden designs, are mostly oriented towards 
> >> > > > > > blogging,
> >> > > > > > news/magazine, or marketing presentations, and not so much about
> >> > > > > > enterprise applications. (This might be that I have missed the 
> >> > > > > > correct
> >> > > > > > layouts). However, I have the same opinion about the other layout
> >> > > > > > plugin.
>
> >> > > > > > Cheers,
> >> > > > > > Benigno.
> >> > > > > > On Mar 24, 10:23 am, mdmcginn <michael.d.mcgin...@gmail.com> 
> >> > > > > > wrote:> CSS is great, much better than table-based web design, 
> >> > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > csszengarden deserves a lot of credit for demonstrating that. 
> >> > > > > > > But it
> >> > > > > > > is just a proof of concept. As you noted, their basic HTML is 
> >> > > > > > > full of
> >> > > > > > > empty divs into which designers can insert fancy images, so 
> >> > > > > > > it's not a
> >> > > > > > > good base for templates.
>
> >> > > > > > > On Mar 22, 9:14 am, Wes James <compte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:27 PM, mdipierro 
> >> > > > > > > > <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > Just for fun:
>
> >> > > > > > > > >  http://web2py.com/zengarden
>
> >> > > > > > > > > then click on the [zengarden] link under the menu, under 
> >> > > > > > > > > the "index"
> >> > > > > > > > > link. You can change the skin per user, per session.
> >> > > > > > > > > This is a bare bone welcome app with the layout
>
> >> > > > > > > > It says to click on link at top right - on firefox/mac os 
> >> > > > > > > > x.6.2 it
> >> > > > > > > > shows up on top-left.
>
> >> > > > > > > > -wes
>
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