Great!,

I am going to do a little research and then put together some
options / samples. Two other items I am going to look into (which are
also suggested on the ez.css page) are html5 semantics and WAI ARIA
landmark roles. Roles would require a code tweak or flag as some
(most?)  validation sites do not support it yet, html5 I need to look
into a bit more. html 5 is semantic and I am wondering if this could
conflict with our current naming conventions, validation and so
forth.

Anyway it is a great opportunity to check all this stuff out and we
could always we could offer some "unsupported" / "off label" options
that give people more choice while maintaining our compatibility
commitments first adopters in the main. For our organization WAI-ARIA
landmarks is really important.

Cheers,

C.

On 28 mar, 13:39, Yarko Tymciurak <resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A few points I would make (as I write this, I am aware this probably
> should be moved to the development list):
>
> -  ez.css is no more than a layout / framing convention;
>    -  staying compatible is easy (and it provides simple layout
> control);
>    -  it uses a useful convention of css class nameing, namely:  <pkg>-
> <class>,  e.g.:  "ez-wr" -
>       - we should stick with that, ie. something like  "w2p" for all
> web2py named css classes and id selectors;
>         - note: the major difference between
>           - class selectors (.something) and
>           - id selectors (#something) is id selectors can link to a
> part of a page, and javascript uses id selectors;
>
> I'm not sure specifically what Massimo meant by "ez.css and jquery.ui
> naming conventions";  we should get specific about this.
>
> ez has the concept of
> - wrappers, (ez-wr, ez-mr)
> - style containers (i.e. layout containers)
> - content containers (i.e. ez-box)
> - sizing elements;
>
> and more...
>
> jquery has at least these conventions:
> -http://jqueryui.com/docs/Theming/API
> -http://wiki.jqueryui.com/Position
>
> Note that ThemeRoller is a way to apply to PARTS of a user layout,
> e.g.:
>
> - font settings;
> - corner radius;
> - header;
> - toolbar;
> - content;
> - clicables;
> - highlight;
> - errors;
> - modal;
> - drop shadoes;
>
> By combining ez (positioning) and jquery-ui (and staying consistent w/
> themeroller), we should be able to build-up a web2py-unique packaging,
> with potentially useful extensions (e.g. for form layout and theming).
>
> This seems, to me, to be a very promising direction.
>
> - Yarko
> Noteab
>
> On Mar 27, 7:44 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > I like the idea. It would be ideal if you could do it using ez.css and
> > jquery.ui naming conventions.
>
> > Massimo
>
> > On 27 Mar, 15:23, Christopher Steel <chris.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > The Zengarden css code is not "open source" but we can easily create
> > > our own. I am just finishing up a css based theme for a client that
> > > uses div's and flow with a two columns (basically the same appearance
> > > as the current web2py default layout). I would be more than happy to
> > > create on using the current web2py names, images and so forth and can
> > > license it as we like.
>
> > > We could include it as a documented option and give it a name like
> > > base-2c-flow.css or base-tableless.css
> > > Let me know soon cause I am moving on to non css stuff in the next few
> > > days.
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > > Christopher Steel.
>
> > > On Mar 25, 5:33 am, Benigno <bca...@albendas.com> wrote:
>
> > > > @mdmcginn: I do think that having a proven flexible div setup that
> > > > allows for so many different options, is precisely what you need on
> > > > the original layout. What Zengarden does, is prove the flexibility of
> > > > CSS but that flexibility is nothing if your div structure is not
> > > > correctly thought out and matured.
>
> > > > On the minus side, however, and this is my personal opinion, I think
> > > > that most Zengarden designs, are mostly oriented towards blogging,
> > > > news/magazine, or marketing presentations, and not so much about
> > > > enterprise applications. (This might be that I have missed the correct
> > > > layouts). However, I have the same opinion about the other layout
> > > > plugin.
>
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Benigno.
> > > > On Mar 24, 10:23 am, mdmcginn <michael.d.mcgin...@gmail.com> wrote:> 
> > > > CSS is great, much better than table-based web design, and
> > > > > csszengarden deserves a lot of credit for demonstrating that. But it
> > > > > is just a proof of concept. As you noted, their basic HTML is full of
> > > > > empty divs into which designers can insert fancy images, so it's not a
> > > > > good base for templates.
>
> > > > > On Mar 22, 9:14 am, Wes James <compte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:27 PM, mdipierro 
> > > > > > <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > > Just for fun:
>
> > > > > > >  http://web2py.com/zengarden
>
> > > > > > > then click on the [zengarden] link under the menu, under the 
> > > > > > > "index"
> > > > > > > link. You can change the skin per user, per session.
> > > > > > > This is a bare bone welcome app with the layout
>
> > > > > > It says to click on link at top right - on firefox/mac os x.6.2 it
> > > > > > shows up on top-left.
>
> > > > > > -wes

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