> A) Web2py is not popular, as evidenced by PyCon. As I argued that is not a good measure of popularity. Using google trends I estimate we have passed TG and CherryPy as popularity.
> C) Massimo appears angst ridden by the non inclusion of web2py at > PyCon to a desired level. Regrettably this still needs to be properly > resolved. LOL. Not true. I just wish PyCon was organized as any of the "other" conferences I go to. Where people submit papers and they are evaluated by reviewers assigned blindly instead than by interested parties who cherry pick what they want to review. > D) However PyCon is frankly irrelevant and unimportant to web2py and > to most of us. Looking at growth of users I see a continuous exponential growth. There is no jump associated to special events. This means that yes PyCon is irrelevant as a means to achieve more popularity but it is not irrelevant as a measure of such popularity. It is not a good measure of popularity (as I argued above) but people perceive it as such (you did for example). Anyway. Please lets' stop brining up PyCon it is not healty. > E) Projects that depend on a single person are risky, whether they be > opens source projects or private propriety projects backed by multi > billion dollar corpoation who issues warnings to investors they are > dependent on key personnel. web2py does not depend on a single person. There are at least 50 people here who really know how web2py works inside, have contributed to it, and continue to improve it. If I were to go stop my involvement (and it is not going to happen), they could pick up immediately. Currently my job is not so much that of coding web2py as much as keeping stuff out. Every one wants to push web2py is this or that direction and, in order to keep it consistent with its original philosophy sometime I have to say no. That is my job and I do not believe this can be done efficiently by a committee. > F) We cannot reasonably expect Massimo to keep up the pace he is. Also > there appears to be little in the way of financial and academic reward > for his efforts Even if I did not it would not be a problem. > G) Web2py is sufficiently different in style and and approach that the > current skill level and interest does not exist to take the load off > Massimo and let him just accept or reject patches. This appears to be > the Linux model and to a certain extent the Python model. For example > Guido do not write the new version of the GIL following the exposure > of the 'Beazly Effect'. Almost all of the changes I commit now are written by other people. The logs reflect that. > H) Massimo is now open to discussion about a foundation. I am. I am always been. Although for different reasons that you want it for. You advocate a legal entity for the purpose of deciding the direction of web2py development. I do not. I advocate a legal entity for the purpose of better serving users of the framework, not developers.of the framework. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
