Love the module Mr Freeze.

I have some same questions about how plug-ins would find out about certain
things in your app.

Say I want to write a plugin_ratingsystem.py, how would I pass settings
along to the plug-in from my db.py? Since plug-in models get executed after
db.py.

What about making it so any model plugin_<name>.py get executed first by
web2py, in alphabetical order of name. This way plug-ins can define classes
and be explicitly called for execution.

I agree with Mr. Freeze. plug-ins should not assume db, auth, crud, etc...
etc... Perhaps plug-ins that use database should need to be explicitly
called

plugin_comments.init(db=mydb, othersetting="hi")

-Thadeus




On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:59 PM, mr.freeze <nat...@freezable.com> wrote:

>
> > I think plugins should assume db, auth, crud, mail, service.
> > Don't you do the same with your code? A plugin is nothing more than a
> > means to package and distribute your code.
>
> I don't think code should ever assume anything.  I used the instances
> since they are in the same model.  If I were to make a module out of
> this it would take the instances as arguments.
>
> > I think the plugin should assume db. I do not see a problem with
> > people editing the plugin anyway.
> > That could be a way to customize it.
>
> Won't this make upgrading plugins a pain? You would have to go back
> through and edit every plugin that you modified before upgrade.
>
> I'll probably just make a module since it will be more reusable.
> Thanks for checking it out.
>
> On Nov 7, 4:47 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 4:06 pm, "mr.freeze" <nat...@freezable.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hmmm...Interesting proposition.  A couple of questions first:
> >
> > > 1) How will the plugin know what the instances of Auth,Crud,Mail and
> > > DAL are named? Are auth,crud,mail and db pretty much reserved words
> > > now?
> >
> > I think plugins should assume db, auth, crud, mail, service.
> > Don't you do the same with your code? A plugin is nothing more than a
> > means to package and distribute your code.
> >
> > > 2) How would I let the user decide which db to put the tables in if
> > > they have multiple? Do they have to edit the plugin?
> >
> > I think the plugin should assume db. I do not see a problem with
> > people editing the plugin anyway.
> > That could be a way to customize it.
> >
> > I do not exclude a more specialized plugin that assume more and/or
> > something different.
> >
> > > On Nov 7, 3:57 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > > I think this is nice.
> >
> > > > If you now call that files models/plugin_settings.py and if all
> tables
> > > > have a prefix plugin_settings_*
> >
> > > > then you can distribute it as a web2py.plugin.settings.py
> >
> > > > Massimo
> >
> > > > On Nov 7, 3:22 pm, "mr.freeze" <nat...@freezable.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > I put this together to let non-developer admins manage settings
> > > > > through appadmin.  It basically puts all settings that are string,
> > > > > int, double or boolean in the database.  I would like feedback on
> the
> > > > > perils/merits of doing this.
> >
> > > > >http://www.web2pyslices.com/main/slices/take_slice/26
> >
> > > > > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
>

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