Here's my two cents:

I looked over the 4 python snake logos and prefer #4 due to the
connection of the letters. Sure, making Max more devilish might be eye-
catching.

As for logos, in general...

I do not like the current 3-person logo. It means *nothing* to me. My
first reaction is, "is this project related to Ubuntu?"
Whereas, the python snake is *immediately* recognizable (perhaps
because of the snake's usage in the wxPython logo).

The point is, stop thinking about what pretty picture you like and
start thinking in terms of marketing. Marketing or promoting a brand
has only a few dimensions to it - and these include easy recognition,
and good connotations *pre-existing* in the mind of the viewer
(certainly bad connotations are to be avoided).

The Linux logo/mascot, of a cutesy penguin has always seemed, to me,
to be such a mistake. What does a "penguin" image conjure up in your
head? The only thing I could conclude is that the choice reflects a
need to present as "friendly, not-dangerous, etc." but I think a dog
would have served the purpose much better.

For those of you living in Canada, you may remember back when each
cellphone company decided upon their logos. Telus decided that insects
would be good images to use, although I cannot imagine why. Meanwhile
Microcell decided to go with dogs and they marketed their service as
"Fido." Their ads always contain lovable dogs and they play up the
"man's best friend" angle to promote that they always have your best
interests at heart. I think their marketing is genius. Telus has given
up with the insects and have tried a number of other animals -
currently they like monkeys... spider monkeys. Bizarre choice, imho.

The purpose of the logo is to capture, in a picture, the wanted
*feelings* from the viewer about your product/service. While the
current logo is good for presenting "community," I find that
"community" is now way over done and I get confused between logos and
projects. Further, the emphasis on the "2" (via colour) makes me
*immediately* think that this is "version 2" as opposed to "version
1."

Take a look at python projects and they seem to want to emphasize the
"python" bit. Here's the logo for wxPython GUI kit:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WxPython-logo.png

The comment that Python is a reference to Monty Python and not a snake
is off the mark. The (marketing) point is to associate a picture and
there is nothing *better* than an obvious pun. Except for using a
giant foot coming down to crush something (as is used in the opening
scenes of the Monty Python Show) I can't think of a better logo for
emphasizing python than a snake. In fact, many people have never seen
the Monty Python show so the giant foot would certainly be lost on
them.

Perhaps the overriding desire is indeed to communicate "community"
over everything else. I'm not sure if emphasing "python" is the best.
Me? I would emphasize "simple and easy" over everything else but I am
unsure what would serve as the best logo to communicate this.

When I was looking for a web platform I was looking for a python
project, more so than any other reason, because my client was using
wxPython. Why not use a similar development tool for the server (ie
share the language), but if I had found something easy and simple that
ran on Ruby I still would have seriously considered it. What I found
first was Zope, on the python side. I got the docs and started
reading. After several days I thought that it was all horribly over-
complicated. I briefly looked at Django but didn't think it was
different enough from Zope. When I discovered Web2py I was amazed.
Gee, all this can really be made this simple and straightforward? I
know my choice for a tagline would be "Web2py: simple elegance."
Because there are so many python projects that use a snake I would
seriously consider using Max to tie "Web" and "py" together in order
to quickly be identified by viewers as a Python project.

And afterall, that's what Web2py is: a web server that is programed in
python.

===
Oops... maybe that's more than just 2 cents. In any case, I hope I
struck the right amount of "Critical" and "informative" and
"promotionary" in order to intrigue others to read it all.

--
Rb



On Sep 2, 1:15 pm, weheh <richard_gor...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Thanks, waTR, very constructive (LOL). I see this thread has devolved
> about as rapidly as I expeted it would. At this point, unless there's
> a tsunami of support, it looks like poor Max is going to get voted off
> the island. Maybe Max will have to learn to love tuna. He already
> loves 
> alligator:http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/20...
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