Yes,  it seems as if the indexes for Google Groups are broken.  I
notice that a similar search on the Google.com main site can provide
more meaningful results.  e.g. search for...
site:http://groups.google.com/group/web2py cookbook tutorial

On Aug 31, 2:15 am, "mr.freeze" <nat...@freezable.com> wrote:
> The search on google groups seems broken to me.  For example, go 
> tohttp://groups.google.com/group/web2py/topics?start=4630&sa=N.  This
> will bring up the oldest posts (Oct 2007).  Now try searching for one
> of the subjects listed (i.e. cookbook tutorial). I get no results.
> Also, whenever I search, the results are never more than a month or
> two old. Is it just me?
>
> On Aug 30, 8:05 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > better or worse, the best place for information is where people use
> > it, and questions and answers accumulate (e.g. content trumps function
> > to a large degree).  Ultimately, people will go where they can find
> > answers (either through replies or searching).  In general, even the
> > forums are google searchable, so the forums themselves would have to
> > be searched / searchable by google indexing (how does work for
> > database-stored content?)
>
> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:44 PM, JorgeR<jorgeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I dont like to have a clugged email box. So, for instance, I dont
> > > receive email updates from this group, and from no other, really.
>
> > > A forum is better organized given that it has sub forums and the
> > > threads are more easy to search-find.
>
> > > Google groups has been ok when the user base is still a newborn.
>
> > > But we must prepare for bigtime, and the best way is a forum.
>
> > > On Aug 30, 7:25 pm, Richard <richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> I really like pyforum and consider it the best available web2py app
> > >> out there.
>
> > >> However Google Groups has worked well - no downtime, low amount of
> > >> spam, good search support, email updates, etc. (It is a much better
> > >> system than Yahoo Groups.)
> > >> Is pyforum ready for all that?
> > >> And I like with Google Groups that I can use my existing Google
> > >> account and not have to remember another password. Are there plans to
> > >> add OpenID support to pyforum?
>
> > >> Also what would be done about the discussions created until now? Could
> > >> they be exported? Because I personally use this group more for
> > >> searching old threads with the same problem as me than asking new
> > >> questions.
>
> > >> If people are keen on pyforum perhaps the new python-developers
> > >> mailing list could try it first.
>
> > >> Richard
>
> > >> On Aug 30, 6:18 am, Julio <ju...@techfuel.net> wrote:
>
> > >> > I am up for it :)
>
> > >> > I do believe pyforum is ready for prime time (though for obvious
> > >> > reasons I am a bit biased), Being in this wonderful group I kinda know
> > >> > who is who in a way, so I'd be happy to give admin to anyone here that
> > >> > requires it, just so you get a "feel" of the administrative area of
> > >> > pyForum, something few have been able to experience.
>
> > >> > The way I see it, pyForum is a good "start" and it's been stable since
> > >> > the 1.x release, another interesting thing about it is that the server
> > >> > is physically located in Chicago IL (though I live in Washington
> > >> > (state)).
>
> > >> > pyForum has some nifty things that are handled in the back-end, such
> > >> > as batch notification emails ran via cron job, auto-removal of out-of-
> > >> > date administrator requests, also has a PM Messaging system for member-
> > >> > to-member communications, complete user management and system
> > >> > configuration TTW, I do still think though, I need a (new) logo/title
> > >> > for the site, as I think my strengths are more in the back-end process
> > >> > rather than UI.
>
> > >> > Even if Massimo/Yarko want to move it to their own servers I am also
> > >> > fine with that., as with all software there are several "gotchas" (I'd
> > >> > like to thing of them as "paradigms" or "patterns" :) ) that one need
> > >> > to understand to implement it properly, but it is still an easy system
> > >> > to install.
>
> > >> > Cheers,
>
> > >> > Julio
>
> > >> > On Aug 29, 11:51 am, "mr.freeze" <nat...@freezable.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > > Also, I think a web framework that eats it's own dog food is more
> > >> > > convincing.
>
> > >> > > On Aug 29, 1:34 pm, "mr.freeze" <nat...@freezable.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > Whoops! I was looking at the topic count but I still think google
> > >> > > > groups suck.  It seems like the search doesn't go back very far and
> > >> > > > nothing is categorized so it's not a good reference.
>
> > >> > > > On Aug 29, 12:04 pm, Jonathan Lundell <jlund...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:33 AM, mr.freeze wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > Google is eating our messages.  It shows only 4625 messages.  
> > >> > > > > > Massimo
> > >> > > > > > does that many in a week :)  web2py should use pyforum instead 
> > >> > > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > take back control!
>
> > >> > > > > Are you sure? When I looked just now 
> > >> > > > > <http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en
> > >> > > > >  >, it had 29347 messages. I haven't noticed any dropped 
> > >> > > > > messages; I
> > >> > > > > wonder if perhaps somebody's spam filter isn't doing the eating 
> > >> > > > > (in
> > >> > > > > which case switching pyforum isn't going to help).- Hide quoted 
> > >> > > > > text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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