I am not a professional developer and I understand others have to consider 
far greater risks in terms of any possible impact of errors and downtime 
but I wanted to add my two pence (cents) worth  regarding my experience of 
upgrading to web2py to Python3!
   
In 2016/17 I developed a web2py app for a family member to manage 
activities, invoices, payments and more for a small business (sql db, 
outgoing sms, pdf invoices/receipts... and  hosted on pythonanywhere.com).  
The app has been in use ever since with additions and modifications being 
made periodically. In November 2022 I migrated the app to a new server (US 
to EU but still pythonanywhere) and took the opportunity to upgrade to 
python3. I found the upgrade to be a relatively painless exercise.  As 
Massimo mentioned there were some print statement errors and two maybe 
three others that popped up.  I found fixes for each error easily and they 
were quickly corrected. 

Many thanks again Massimo and to all the support community for all the work 
put in to web2py and py4web!
 
Lastly, for what its worth, I have found py4web a bit more 
advanced/intimidating to get started with but still would love to get 
something useful up and running... 2025 might be the year!

Peter
On Sunday 14 July 2024 at 03:10:05 UTC+1 Massimo Di Pierro wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> You may have noticed I am not very active on this mailing list. That is 
> mostly because I have been concentrating my energy on py4web which I think 
> is must more modern and faster than web2py.
>
> Once again I want to encourage you to move.
> If you look at this page
>
>      https://py4web.com/#why
>
> You will find it to be very familiar:
> - has an admin interface (called _dashboard)
> - has an dbadmin interface
> - same pyDAL
> - same template language
> - same helpers
> - same session interface
> - similar but better Form
> - similar but better Grid (still evolving)
> - different request object but compatible with bottlepy
> - different auth logic but support for more Oauth2 services (github, okta, 
> facebook, etc.)
> - different but similar background scheduler
>
> Here are some instructions about how to move from web2py to py4web
>
> web2py currently works for python2.7 and python3.7+ but they are using a 
> frozen version of pydal. This no longer works on Google App Engine. So how 
> do we fix it?
>
> I am considering the following:
> - freezing web2py for Python 2.7 and stopping support.
> - continuing limited support of web2py for python3.7+ and specifically 
> upgrade pydal for the lastest. 
> - upgrade pydal so that it continues to work on Google App Engine for both 
> web2py and py4web.
>
> My questions are: Is this worth it? Have people moved from python2.7 to 
> 3.7+ already? Are people here interested in continuing to use web2py with 
> GAE?
>  
>
> Massimo
>
>
>
>

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