We should not confuse freedom of expression with transparency and with democracy. You have freedom of expression here and people are not being censored for what they say. There is no plan to change that. You also have transparency. The web2py-developers list is world readable although it is new so there i nothing in there. This is because it is in everybody interest to get as much feedback as possible from users.
Yet, this is not a democracy. The fact that a project is open source (and you can us it for free) does not mean that users have the same rights as the original copyright holder(s). I welcome your suggestions about technical issues and about management but not complaints. If something is given to you for free you have the option to accept it (use it), you have the option to return a gift (contribute), but you do not have the complain to complain. It is my interest to keep this project as open as possible and as open as any other GPL2 project. But it is important to distinguish people who contribute to it from people who do not. It is my intention to be relatively loose on the definition of "contribute". Some people have contributed with a lot of code. Some people have contributed with documentation. Some people have contributed by testing and reporting bugs. Some people have contributed by blogging about web2py. Some have volunteered to help with management issues. Other have built apps with web2py. I am not going to rank contributors but it is my responsibility to acknowledge the people who have given back. I owe it to them. We all do. This is good because it provides an incentive to do more. It informs users about who they can direct questions to and whose answers they can trust. I am not selecting anybody a priori. People who have given back can ask to join web2py-developers and their work will be acknowledged, a posteriori. The role of various people has already being acknowledged in the who.html page although I need to do a better job. If I have made mistakes please help me correct them. Said this. I do not think that the voice of the developers is more important than anybody else's voice when it comes to setting a roadmap. We will set a public web2py were people can contribute to the roadmap by proposing items and voting. The role of the developers is to decide what is feasible and when. My role is to decide what is compatible with my vision for web2py and what is not. The most critical issue for the future of web2py is that it does not get corrupted. Web2py was designed to be small, fast, simple and coherent. It is my job to keep it that way. Massimo On Jul 18, 2:03 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:52 PM, DenesL <denes1...@yahoo.ca> wrote: > > >> Joe: I have sided with you many times but not on this one. > > >> A cleaner division between users (a.k.a commoners --giggle--) who want > >> to use web2py without knowing what is under the hood and developers > >> (a.k.a high priests --LOL--) who make an extra effort to delve into > >> the innards and into strategic thinking, is healthy IMHO. > > >> Plus I like my new purple robe and pointy hat (sorry... I could not > >> resist). > > > heheheeee .... > > (er ... still having trouble typing w/ them ;-): > > > > > Oh! and don't forget those fancy, star- studded gloves, with the > > fingertips conveniently cut off for typing on your keyboard, while giving > > _much_ better control of that Wand! *smirk* > > >> Denes. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
