Not quite. I am justing waiting to cleanup the specs before I can ask
for help. I hope to be done soon so I can use your help.

Massimo

On Jul 17, 2:17 pm, Bottiger <bottig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wanted to do so, but Massimo made it clear that he wanted to work on
> the new DAL by himself. I already offered to help.
>
> On Jul 17, 2:29 am, Joe  Barnhart <joe.barnh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Let me also be blunt.
>
> > Your message started with a serious but constructive criticism of
> > web2py and then degenerated into a whining post for including your own
> > favorite database.  If that's the only feature you seek in web2py,
> > download the source code and have at it.
>
> > What a disappointing finish.
>
> > On Jul 17, 12:34 am, Bottiger <bottig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Finally, this community has to do a better job at outreach. You should
>
> > > talk to your friends and blog about web2py. You must talk about the
> > > applications you build with it. We do not lack developers. We lack
> > > salesmen.
>
> > > I apologize in advance for being blunt.
>
> > > I thought about writing about Web2Py on my blog, but what can I say?
> > > That everything is a little different but slightly better than Django?
> > > They aren't going to believe me, and it will get ignored and downvoted
> > > just like the recent Reddit stories. A simple search for web2py on
> > > Reddit shows many stories with heavy downvotes and people simply not
> > > interested that there is a Django or Pylons clone, when Django and
> > > Pylons do just fine.
>
> > > The problem with Web2Py is that it does not have a niche. Right now,
> > > Django is occupying the same niche. As the first-comer, it has the
> > > advantage that people already know how to use it. Until Web2Py manages
> > > to have a benefit greater than its own learning curve, Web2Py will
> > > continue to sit in second place.
>
> > > If it has something that no one else does (a feature), then you will
> > > be justified in bragging about it, and the detractors will not be
> > > justified in denouncing it. This is not to say that we should have
> > > every feature possible; only that we need ones that set Web2Py apart.
>
> > > As for which feature we should include, I currently have 1 in mind
> > > that will set it apart from the others:
>
> > > First class support for a free distributed database.
>
> > > The reason is simple. There is a need for a scalable database that
> > > does not rely on Google or Amazon. By focusing on the needs of
> > > ambitious projects, you will increase the likelihood of getting free
> > > press that matters: from big flashy projects. Instead, right now the
> > > ecosystem consists mostly of hobby projects on the GAE and internal
> > > websites. This is probably not the only killer improvement that Web2Py
> > > can make, but its the one the personally interests me the most.
>
> > > (P.S. Massimo, I believe you've received my synopsis on supporting
> > > MongoDB before CouchDB).
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