On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> another way to state this:  partials are language from one very (too)
>> narrow use case.
>> The general case is that page CONTAINERS manage output, and decay to one
>> container per page (or the partials sort of idea that were mentioned).
>>
>> Now - controller logic is just engineering logic - implementation of
>> solution / output;
>>
>> Containers, and the protocol to connect output (URI) to a container is
>> view logic...
>>
>> This is important, because this is how outupt to one page (for example for
>> PyCon) can be collected from controller outupt from 2 frameworks (django or
>> web2py)....
>>
>> And this is where this concept shows the boundaries that are appropriate
>> (the other end of the boundary - even if you never want to combine output
>> from elsewhere, the point is still  that level of separation is desireable).
>>
>> Come to think of it, another place to look is what do Yahoo Pipes do?
>> That is 3 places to look, and gather ideas:  Yahoo Pipes, jsr Portlets,
>>  .Net / what dotnetnuke uses to implement application containers...
>>
>> This last piece is where web2py can start:  think about how to have
>> "portlets" that can (for example) be connected to web2py application output.
>>
>
> Note what this last concept does / says:  If I can have a screen container
> as a destination, then I can supply tools which are applications (however
> small) which a user / site can just install and connect - for example, to
> have a calendar on the page.   What that calendar ties to (now) could be
> done thru the calendar's admin interface --- instead of programming. Placing
> the calendar, and connecting it to a receptor/container too can be an admin
> functionality. This is an important shift.
>

And not new - dotnetnuke  already does this (has for years).  It would just
be new (?) to Python.  I know there are some aspects of this in Plone, but
those I believe are rather less flexible than what I'm thinking of - I'm
still thinking of one page, multi frameworks putputting to (still thinking
about future of pycon site).


>
> Let's think about this carefully, study what's out there and come up with a
> starting, simple (but appropriately functional) proposal.
>
> -y
>

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