On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:

> another way to state this:  partials are language from one very (too)
> narrow use case.
> The general case is that page CONTAINERS manage output, and decay to one
> container per page (or the partials sort of idea that were mentioned).
>
> Now - controller logic is just engineering logic - implementation of
> solution / output;
>
> Containers, and the protocol to connect output (URI) to a container is view
> logic...
>
> This is important, because this is how outupt to one page (for example for
> PyCon) can be collected from controller outupt from 2 frameworks (django or
> web2py)....
>
> And this is where this concept shows the boundaries that are appropriate
> (the other end of the boundary - even if you never want to combine output
> from elsewhere, the point is still  that level of separation is desireable).
>
> Come to think of it, another place to look is what do Yahoo Pipes do?
> That is 3 places to look, and gather ideas:  Yahoo Pipes, jsr Portlets,
>  .Net / what dotnetnuke uses to implement application containers...
>
> This last piece is where web2py can start:  think about how to have
> "portlets" that can (for example) be connected to web2py application output.
>

Note what this last concept does / says:  If I can have a screen container
as a destination, then I can supply tools which are applications (however
small) which a user / site can just install and connect - for example, to
have a calendar on the page.   What that calendar ties to (now) could be
done thru the calendar's admin interface --- instead of programming. Placing
the calendar, and connecting it to a receptor/container too can be an admin
functionality. This is an important shift.

Let's think about this carefully, study what's out there and come up with a
starting, simple (but appropriately functional) proposal.

-y

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