Sorry, please ignore. It seems I missed the new thread on this:
http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/4cd0a75de54f32aa/2c20dbcbd9d8aa9d?lnk=gst&q=custom+forms#2c20dbcbd9d8aa9d

Cheers,
-P

On Dec 23, 10:55 pm, Peter <peter.kleyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This looks like what I need:customformswith fields that can tie
> into model and database, including validation,etc.
> But this modified version of "Bill's patch" hasn't yet made it into
> production yet (1.54), is that correct?
>
> -Peter
>
> On Nov 10, 8:01 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > Attention!!! I posted in trunk a complete rewrite of gluon/html.py
>
> > In my tests it does not break anything but please try it and let me
> > know if it break something before I post an new web2py version.
>
> > The reason for the rewrite is mainly to make form processing twice as
> > fast and the code more readable, but also to include Bill'spatchin a
> > more elegant way. The new html is 5% smaller than the previous one.
>
> > About the comments below:
>
> > 1) I agree with Bill
> > 2) one can do db.table[fieldname].label and get the label (*)
> > 3) I agree. One can do {{if form.errors.has_key(fieldname):}}
> > {{=form.errors[fieldname}}{{pass}} (*)
> > 4) Now you can do acustomform like
>
> > db.define_table('person',SQLField('name'))
>
> > def index():
> >     form=SQLFORM(db.person)
> >     if form.accepts(request.vars,session)
> >     return dict(form=form)
>
> > {{if form.errors:}}{{=form.errors}}{{pass}}
> > <form>
> > <input type="text" name='name' value="{{=form.values.name}}" />
> > <input type="submit" />
> > {{=form.hidden_fields()}} <!--you need this to prevent double
> > submission and allow multipleforms//-->
> > </form>
>
> > Please let me know if it works. I am hoping to post a new release
> > before my talk at pyworks2008.
>
> > Massimo
>
> > On Nov 10, 12:06 am, billf <billferr...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > 1) tables over something else:  it does seem to be a subject of great
> > > discussion that people get very energised about.  But I guess that if
> > > you take out tables then someone else will object :-)  Isn't the idea
> > > ofcustomformsthat if you want labels you code your own view?
>
> > > 2) labels: personally I don't think the specification of labels fits
> > > elegantly in the model or the controller but I recognise the need to
> > > put them somewhere if you want to avoid duplicating them in multiple
> > > views.  Ideally, they could be defined in an application view, e.g.
> > > layout.html, and referenced by views that extend that - is that
> > > possible?  I would interested to hear other people's views.
>
> > > 3) I thinkcustomerror handling is part ofcustomviews: the
> > > developer has access to the field value and error messages so can do
> > > what they want.
>
> > > 4) Sounds great: once spec'd it will be interesting to see if these
> > > are core web2py or not.
>
> > > My original proposal grew out of my own requirements to convert an
> > > existing app to web2py: I just wanted access to the latest values and/
> > > or html component (to handle SELECTs).  As such the proposal works
> > > fine.
>
> > > However, since then, I have got interested in (IMHO) cleaning up the
> > > web2py approach to MVC.  By that I mean, no view stuff in the model
> > > (e.g. labels) or the controller (passing labels to SQLFORM) and
> > > separating db updates from html creation (both in SQLFORM). So I have
> > > been developing some ideas that are probably at the point where group
> > > comment would be really useful.  I would post them as a blueprint but
> > > this forum seems to be the place to get feedback so I am going to
> > > create a new thread.
>
> > > On Nov 10, 4:39 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > fine with everything but what's the problem of table in form. You can
> > > > use CSS to completely override the table layout and more the TD
> > > > anywhere you like on the screen as if they were a DIV. Am I wrong?
>
> > > > Massimo
>
> > > > On Nov 9, 10:30 pm, DenesL <denes1...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > > Regarding this subject, I have been running some tests as time
> > > > > permits.
> > > > > May I suggest the following (which I might have mentioned before):
>
> > > > > 1) The form needs to be more CSS friendly (following the MVC pattern).
> > > > > This means no tables.
> > > > > In my tests I have been able to trim the fields to: <label...>
> > > > > +<input...>+comment+<br/>
> > > > > and with very simple CSS make the form look like the current one.
> > > > > More complex CSS could be used to position each element individually
> > > > > if desired.
>
> > > > > 2) For each field passed to the form its label and its value must be
> > > > > accessible in the view via a statement similar to the one mentioned
> > > > > above: {{=form.latest.field}}, mine look like {{=form.label.field}}
> > > > > and {{=form.value.field}}. Labels are required for translation
> > > > > purposes. Some field values, like those of select type fields, require
> > > > > special consideration; specially when the fields can be converted to
> > > > > display only (e.g. using DIV instead of INPUT).
>
> > > > > 3)Customformsalso needcustomform error handling. My solution so
> > > > > far is to use a small JS to change the background color of the fields
> > > > > in error and change the title attribute to hold the error, so hovering
> > > > > a field in error displays the error message. But this is probably a
> > > > > matter of personal preference. Same as replacing the comment with an
> > > > > image of a question mark that opens the text when requested without
> > > > > cluttering the form.
>
> > > > > 4) In the future I would like to integrate the automatic creation of
> > > > > cascaded fields and autocompletes if possible.
>
> > > > > I could be leaving something out but things tend to come out on the
> > > > > ensuing discussion.
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