This was my helper:

class form_helper(object):

      def error(self,form,error_name,div_class='form_error'):
          if request.vars.has_key('name') and form.errors.has_key
(error_name):
             response.write(XML('<div class="%(class)s">%(error)s</
div>'%{'error': form.errors[error_name],'class': div_class}))

      def value(self,form_value):
          if request.vars.has_key('name') and not
response.message_sent:
             response.write(request.vars[form_value])

Then In my view i can just do:

<form method="post" action="" class="contact">
  {{form.error(contact_form,'name')}}
    <label>your name</label>
    <input name="name" type="text" id="contactname" value="{{form.value
('name')}}"/>
    <input name="submit" type="submit" class="submit" id="submit"
value="submit" title="Signup" />
  </form>

On Nov 16, 5:25 pm, ceej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Using your example Massimo:
>
> db.define_table('person',SQLField('name'))
>
> def index():
>     form=SQLFORM(db.person)
>     if form.accepts(request.vars,session)
>     return dict(form=form)
>
> {{if form.errors:}}{{=form.errors}}{{pass}}
> <form>
> <input type="text" name='name' value="{{=form.values.name}}" />
> <input type="submit" />
> {{=form.hidden_fields()}} <!--you need this to prevent double
> submission and allow multiple forms //-->
> </form>
>
> Could i do:
>
> <form>
> {{if form.errors.name:}}<div
> class="error">{{=form.errors.name}}<div>{{pass}}
> <input type="text" name='name' value="{{=form.values.name}}" />
> <input type="submit" />
> {{=form.hidden_fields()}} <!--you need this to prevent double
> submission and allow multiple forms //-->
> </form>
>
> So I could put the errors next to the field instead of all to together
> at the top, I know you said you could on your second post but then you
> said you were changing it, so I wanted to know if you still can. I've
> already written a helper for this but if it's now built In I will use
> that :)
>
> On Nov 10, 6:54 am, DenesL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I will have to go over the changes in html.py but:
> > 1) I also agree with Bill. The point here was really the MVC
> > separation as he calls it in a separate post. Plus a leaner version of
> > the generated HTML. I have no idea how hard would it be to re-position
> > a TD in a complex form just using CSS.
> > 2) Many debatable positions can be taken here too. Should labels be
> > considered part of the form data or not? Where would they fit better?
> > <add your own here >
> > I know the info is available from other sources but I think it is more
> > elegant to have it all come from one source: the form itself.
> > 2b) A separate issue here is the use of display only fields versus the
> > current all input. The presentation value becomes dependent on its
> > final use (input or display), and the existence of: record, reference,
> > requires and widgets for each. Again, the objective would be to have
> > it all available from one source: the form.
> > 3) Errors have been always available from the form object, the way it
> > should be IMO. Here I want to hear about other nice and elegant ways
> > to handle the errors. Maybe we can have one in the improved version if
> > the opinions are not too divergent.
> > 4) I have cascades and autocompletes in my currentformsand I posted
> > how I did it, but the setup is a little convoluted so I would like to
> > automate it. They use jQuery plugins. Other special field types that
> > can be added here? Maybe make them into web2py plugins?.
> > It is all a work in progress...
>
> > On Nov 10, 2:01 am, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Attention!!! I posted in trunk a complete rewrite of gluon/html.py
>
> > > In my tests it does not break anything but please try it and let me
> > > know if it break something before I post an new web2py version.
>
> > > The reason for the rewrite is mainly to make form processing twice as
> > > fast and the code more readable, but also to include Bill's patch in a
> > > more elegant way. The new html is 5% smaller than the previous one.
>
> > > About the comments below:
>
> > > 1) I agree with Bill
> > > 2) one can do db.table[fieldname].label and get the label (*)
> > > 3) I agree. One can do {{if form.errors.has_key(fieldname):}}
> > > {{=form.errors[fieldname}}{{pass}} (*)
> > > 4) Now you can do acustomform like
>
> > > db.define_table('person',SQLField('name'))
>
> > > def index():
> > >     form=SQLFORM(db.person)
> > >     if form.accepts(request.vars,session)
> > >     return dict(form=form)
>
> > > {{if form.errors:}}{{=form.errors}}{{pass}}
> > > <form>
> > > <input type="text" name='name' value="{{=form.values.name}}" />
> > > <input type="submit" />
> > > {{=form.hidden_fields()}} <!--you need this to prevent double
> > > submission and allow multipleforms//-->
> > > </form>
>
> > > Please let me know if it works. I am hoping to post a new release
> > > before my talk at pyworks2008.
>
> > > Massimo
>
> > > On Nov 10, 12:06 am, billf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > 1) tables over something else:  it does seem to be a subject of great
> > > > discussion that people get very energised about.  But I guess that if
> > > > you take out tables then someone else will object :-)  Isn't the idea
> > > > ofcustomformsthat if you want labels you code your own view?
>
> > > > 2) labels: personally I don't think the specification of labels fits
> > > > elegantly in the model or the controller but I recognise the need to
> > > > put them somewhere if you want to avoid duplicating them in multiple
> > > > views.  Ideally, they could be defined in an application view, e.g.
> > > > layout.html, and referenced by views that extend that - is that
> > > > possible?  I would interested to hear other people's views.
>
> > > > 3) I thinkcustomerror handling is part ofcustomviews: the
> > > > developer has access to the field value and error messages so can do
> > > > what they want.
>
> > > > 4) Sounds great: once spec'd it will be interesting to see if these
> > > > are core web2py or not.
>
> > > > My original proposal grew out of my own requirements to convert an
> > > > existing app to web2py: I just wanted access to the latest values and/
> > > > or html component (to handle SELECTs).  As such the proposal works
> > > > fine.
>
> > > > However, since then, I have got interested in (IMHO) cleaning up the
> > > > web2py approach to MVC.  By that I mean, no view stuff in the model
> > > > (e.g. labels) or the controller (passing labels to SQLFORM) and
> > > > separating db updates from html creation (both in SQLFORM). So I have
> > > > been developing some ideas that are probably at the point where group
> > > > comment would be really useful.  I would post them as a blueprint but
> > > > this forum seems to be the place to get feedback so I am going to
> > > > create a new thread.
>
> > > > On Nov 10, 4:39 am, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > fine with everything but what's the problem of table in form. You can
> > > > > use CSS to completely override the table layout and more the TD
> > > > > anywhere you like on the screen as if they were a DIV. Am I wrong?
>
> > > > > Massimo
>
> > > > > On Nov 9, 10:30 pm, DenesL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Regarding this subject, I have been running some tests as time
> > > > > > permits.
> > > > > > May I suggest the following (which I might have mentioned before):
>
> > > > > > 1) The form needs to be more CSS friendly (following the MVC 
> > > > > > pattern).
> > > > > > This means no tables.
> > > > > > In my tests I have been able to trim the fields to: <label...>
> > > > > > +<input...>+comment+<br/>
> > > > > > and with very simple CSS make the form look like the current one.
> > > > > > More complex CSS could be used to position each element individually
> > > > > > if desired.
>
> > > > > > 2) For each field passed to the form its label and its value must be
> > > > > > accessible in the view via a statement similar to the one mentioned
> > > > > > above: {{=form.latest.field}}, mine look like {{=form.label.field}}
> > > > > > and {{=form.value.field}}. Labels are required for translation
> > > > > > purposes. Some field values, like those of select type fields, 
> > > > > > require
> > > > > > special consideration; specially when the fields can be converted to
> > > > > > display only (e.g. using DIV instead of INPUT).
>
> > > > > > 3)Customformsalso needcustomform error handling. My solution so
> > > > > > far is to use a small JS to change the background color of the 
> > > > > > fields
> > > > > > in error and change the title attribute to hold the error, so 
> > > > > > hovering
> > > > > > a field in error displays the error message. But this is probably a
> > > > > > matter of personal preference. Same as replacing the comment with an
> > > > > > image of a question mark that opens the text when requested without
> > > > > > cluttering the form.
>
> > > > > > 4) In the future I would like to integrate the automatic creation of
> > > > > > cascaded fields and autocompletes if possible.
>
> > > > > > I could be leaving something out but things tend to come out on the
> > > > > > ensuing discussion.
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