On Wed, 24 Aug 2016, at 06:16 AM, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8/23/2016 7:05 PM, Evan Hughes wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Its that time of year again. Its nearing a year since retirement of the
> > project was brought up and it may be a good time to review the current
> > situation.
> 
> Well, not withstanding all the myriad competitors to this technology, 
> there are still operational sites linked to and functional from the 
> pages of this forum, and it appears that some development continues to 
> take place as well.
> 
> Not to mention the fact that support for Wave is still needed, this list 
> providing that service (to some degree).
> 
> So I think that although it may in fact be a stalled project, with very 
> little forward momentum or development, it is actually still quite 
> viable, and relevant, some commercial interests have also really done a 
> very nice, if not fully with a complete UI, job of deploying a unique 
> and good looking implementation.

Bradley,

The Apache Incubator is not necessarily going to be concerned with how
useful or how used a technology is. The real question is whether the
project is moving towards graduation from the incubator. The most
noticeable aspect of this is the fact that we are *very* low on
developers. The absolute minimum required by Apache would be three
-people who know the code and would be willing to review a release and
confirm that it both works, and meets the licensing rules specified by
Apache.

Unfortunately, the Wave project, despite all of its promise, does not
appear to have managed to achieve that level of activity - despite
numerous attempts to do so.

If we do not hear anything convincing on this thread, I will, soon,
start a vote of retirement. If there is insufficient response, that may,
by itself, be sufficient for the Incubator PMC (project management
committee) to retire the project.

Note on retirement: This means that the community disolves as an
*Apache* community. Whilst Apache retains rights to the name "Apache
Wave", I cannot imagine anyone objecting to a "Wave" project being set
up, e.g. on Github. So long as the terms of the Apache License V2 are
honoured, it is quite acceptable for the project to continue elsewhere,
where there is no particular expectation of activity level.

Upayavira

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