Bruno, You are kinda right, and kinda not :-)
I guess the thing is, it is perhaps best to say that this release *ISN'T* about code, it is about everything else. And that everything else includes licensing, but also includes the communities ability to self manage. Therefore, I'd suggest that everyone review the release as best they can, from both a licensing and a code perspective. You can state in your vote what you checked and what you didn't. All you are stating is that you checked to the best of your abilities. Over time, I hope we'll all get better at knowing what to look for. That's why we pass the release vote on to the Incubator PMC - to have folks more experienced also give it a once-over, so that we don't yet need to worry too much about knowing what we are doing. Also, don't assume you need to be a committer to vote. I'd love to be able to forward this vote to the incubator PMC saying we had 15 +1 votes :-) Upayavira On Fri, Sep 13, 2013, at 06:13 PM, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) wrote: > I was under the (maybe incorrect) impression that these releases are not > focused on the code per se, but rather on getting the release process > right: solve copyright and licensing issues, correct packaging of third > party libraries, and similar issues. > If that assumption is correct, at the moment I can not be of much help; > Ali > and veteran Apache members know heaps more than I do, so I wouldn't be > able > to provide a *meaningful* vote without first carefully studying the > Apache > requisites. > > However, if code is (very) relevant, I may have time to test it later > this > weekend. (holidays, real life issues, and three hard disks failing in > almost-consecutive days, have been stopping me from testing the RC). > > For the record, I've tested Ali's federation patches in the past, since > most of them had been in his github repo for weeks already: they do > improve > the stability, and is a very nice and welcome improvement over the > previous > status of wiab federation. Only for that, I'd provide a +1 vote. Though > as > I mentioned, I have not really tested those patches in the exact form as > they are included in the latest RC4. > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Christian Grobmeier > <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > Am 12.09.13 20:35, schrieb Ali Lown: > > > It seems nobody else is able to give feedback at this point. > > > Christian raised some things that are worth doing, so I may as well > > > start again with RC5, which I will push up in a few weeks time. [It is > > > a bit too busy for me ATM.] > > > > > > Hopefully, by being a bit later, people won't be on holiday, so will > > > be able to review it. :P > > I would say save the time for now. > > > > It has been 2 weeks time for voting. This project has seen messages. > > It's september, not mid of august. > > We got 1 (!) community vote. Vincente mentioned he is away (thats fine) > > and John is not so much into gory technical details (accepted so far). > > > > But where were the others? Is it really holidays which prevents the > > vote? Do we ALL have holidays at the same time? > > > > Before we move on with a new RC, i would like to know from the people > > listed here: > > http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#wave > > why they didn't vote.** > > > > Was it really holidays? No interest? No time? > > > > It has been *a lot* of work for Ali to deal with the ASF release > > procedures and kick out multiple RCs. It would be worth to know if he > > should continue and if there will be any voters in the future. If there > > is nobody who is willing to open a zip file, look into it and send out a > > +1, then its really alarming. It took me 30 minutes or so to check the > > release. This is not so much. > > > > I have hoped the excitement in the project after John and a few others > > appeared was so big that we would have managed to get a new release out > > for review. If others, maybe Incubator Shepherds* look at this project > > now, they would think: no community. > > > > Please let me - us - know what you who are on the list above prevented > > to vote**. > > > > Cheers*** > > Christian > > > > * Incubator Shepherds are Incubator PMC people, who look independently > > from the mentor on the activity of the project and provide a second > > insight for the report > > ** Of course I don't want you to speak out anything which should be kept > > private - remember this is a public list. I just want to know: is there > > a realistic chance that we ever get more than 3 votes? 3 are required to > > get it out, but given the huge list of committers we should get more votes. > > *** I am not a native speaker - and I hope my email doesn't sound to > > angry. I am not. I would be dissappointed if it finally turns out that > > we have lost the energy and steam of the past days > > > > > > > > > > Ali > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards/Saludos, > Bruno Gonzalez > > http://www.stenyak.com | stenyak @ irc://irc.freenode.net
