Thank you for your help. I have a few things I would like clarified further (inline below).
—Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro On 15 June 2013 03:42, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to answer a few formal questions: > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro > <zmy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > - Is technically “owned” by me (as far as GitHub is concerned; I am open > to > > contributions from anyone). > > If you have got contributions, we need to make sure they have a clean IP. > Usually this is done by having a signed ICLA from the contributor. If > the contribution > is not too big, it should not be a problem. > > > - What is the process for moving the code from GitHub to Apache (and can > > you confirm I can still use git—I know WIAB had to switch to svn)? > > The Wave PMC need to accept this code. Usually this is done by a vote. > What tools are used (git/svn) is also up to the PMC. If your requirement > is git, > you should suggest that and PMC needs to decide about it. In theory > it is not a problem any more. > > WIAB had to switch, because git was not fully deployed at the ASF at this > time. > Meanwhile it changed, and projects use Git instead of Svn in first place > now. > > > - I assume I would have to import issues into Jira. What is the process > > for doing that? What happens to comments on those issues? What about > > comments that reference commits? > > There is some support for importing issues to Jira. We need to ask > infra@ for details, > but if github supports an export, i am pretty sure we can somehow > import them in Jira. > I am not sure how referenced commits in comments are handled. This needs > to be > asked on infra@ > > > - What would Apache own? What would I keep ownership of? > > If you contribute the code, the code. > If you contribute the name, the name too. > > It is most likely that you would be invited to the Wave project, if > your donation is accepted (can only guess, the PMC decides that). > With donating code to the ASF, you are basically giving the ASF the > right to redistribute the code in any way. > I believe in theory legally you are the copyright owner. But it > doesn't matter anymore, because you gave the distribution / > modification rights to the ASF. > > Please note, @author tags are not recommended at the ASF. > If you would donate, but not join the project, you would be listed as > contributor in some file. If you join the team, such an > explicit statement is usually not necessary any longer. > > In short, you could say you share the ownership some with the ASF. > > If you donate the name, the name can become a trademark of the ASF adn > will be protected as such. > Please note, there is a process to check if the name *can* become a > trademark (for example, if you would > come up with "Apple" as name, it's not going to work out). > > If you donate the name, the ASF would use it then. If not, the project > needs to rename things in the donated code. > The name “Wave Extensions Gallery” is rather generic, not something unique that I alone could have come up with. Do I still need to officially give Apache the name? Would that mean there can never be another index of wave extensions that calls itself a “wave extensions gallery”? > > > - Would anything have to happen to the Google+ and Facebook pages? > > If you donate the name, then you should also donate these two > accounts. They would - as weird as it sounds - > be a trademark problem. Usually projects run G+ etc with sharing > passwords across the PMC (encrypted file). > > If you are not donating the name, you can keep them without problems. > The Google+ and Facebook pages do not exactly have their own accounts or passwords; they are pages linked to my G+ and FB accounts. Would I just give some Apache account admin access to the pages? Would I have to give up my own admin access? Pages can have multiple admins, so I do not see a reason that would be necessary, but I want to be sure. > > > - Would anything have to happen to the App Engine instance? > > As long as there are not trademark confusions, it's up to you. If > trademarks are safe, you can run it > to your liking and share access to whom you like. > > Trademarks can be cleared pretty easily. For example, you could mention the > "This App demonstrates features of Apache $foo", and that should be a > big part of the trick already. > > Please note, you maybe could deal out something with infra and get a > VM running on ASF > infra. It maybe would be a $-saver for you. > > Right now the app is written such that it can only run on GAE. What I wanted clarified was what I would have to give to Apache. Presumably if I give them the name, I would also give them the waveextensions.org domain. Would the official WEG App Engine instance also have to become Apache-owned? > > - What else would have to change that has not been mentioned in answers > to > > my previous questions? > > I cannot mind anything right now :-) > > But I have a good link for you: > www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html > > This explains how we basically operate. > > > I apologize for sounding so worried and paranoid; I am kind of new to > this, > > and I figure getting these questions answered here will help me (and > anyone > > else who is new to this) understand the situation for current and future > > wave-related projects that we may want to make part of Apache Wave. > > Its great you ask such questions. I am sure, others have the same and > didn't want > to speak them out loud. But thats exactly one point why this project > has mentors. > To help dealing with that kind of questions. > > Being paranoid is good. I mean, its better before donating under wrong > expectations. > Better to ask a lot and finally decide happy. > > Please note another thing: > > If you are actually donating and the project accepts and you finally > think you want out of this all, > it is possible too. You could make a fork of the ASF project. The only > problem would be > you would need to chose another name, if you have donated that too. > While it actually happened > that ASF allows to take back trademarks/names, it is not often happening. > > Please ask more if I was unclear or confusing. > > Cheers > Christian > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > —Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro > > > > -- > http://www.grobmeier.de > https://www.timeandbill.de >
