Joseph's parenthetical comment basically sums up the reason I have been doing things the way I have. I would love to see some larger wave organization take over the Wave Extensions Gallery ( github.com/zmyaro/wave-extensions-gallery | waveextensions.org), but I do not want to make it part of Apache Wave because that would mean giving up git and GitHub's wiki and issue tracking tools. If Apache had as nice and cohesive a system for such things as GitHub, Bitbucket, or Google Code, I would definitely be more open to the idea of handing the project over, but right now the tools feel rather ugly and disconnected.
That said, I would definitely contribute to other Apache Wave projects when I can. I have not contributed to WIAB because I am not very familiar with GWT, but if other projects were added (or if I learned more GWT :P) I would definitely contribute where I could. —Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro On 12 June 2013 19:14, Joseph Gentle <jose...@gmail.com> wrote: > I love it. Well said, and I totally agree. (Although I still like > having ShareJS on Github.) > > -J > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Michael MacFadden > <michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wavers, > > > > It has become clear that there a MANY more people are interested in Wave > > that we had previously thought. There recent explosion of interest is > > fantastic. However, what I am seeing is that the wave community is > > splintered and fragmented. There are a lot of people who have been doing > > development work on wave related concepts like OT, federation, etc > outside > > of Apache Wave. Maybe they thought they were not welcome. Maybe they > > though the existing code base was headed in the wrong direction. Maybe > they > > thought we would not be open to their project ideas. Who knows. > Whatever > > the reason, there have been many side projects all over the web some how > > related to wave. Either inspired by wave, or developed to explore some > > alternative to the way wave did something. > > > > I would like to try to unite these efforts in to one umbrella project. > From > > a code base perspective, we can create multiple folders in our repository > > were proof of concepts and side projects can exist along side WiaB. If > this > > drives activity and interest to Apache Wave, then fantastic. Sure we > would > > love to have 20 people jump in and help us with the current issues > directly > > in WiaB. If people want to do that, by all means PLEASE HELP. But if > that > > is not what you are interested in, but you ARE interested in some other > path > > forward, please join our community. Please use Apache Wave as your home > to > > develop Wave technology. Be it OT, Clients, Protocols, what have you. > > There is nothing that says the WiaB in its current form has to be the > only > > product produced by this project. We could have a generic core OT > Engine / > > API that powers wave. We could have the core server that leverages this > > engine. We could have multiple clients, etc. > > > > I specifically named the project Apache Wave and not Apache Wave in a > Box, > > because the vision was the eventually this project would become the home > of > > a whole ecosystem of wave related things. > > > > If there is one current truth, it is that none of our groups has been > > independently successful in developing and distributing a widely used and > > adopted OT based collaboration project. I think together we can be more > > successful than apart. Yes that means we have to hash things out on the > > mailing list occasionally, but I think we are all open to input from > anyone. > > If we can create a place for side projects, then perhaps people will be > more > > free to bring their ideas and efforts here. > > > > To that end, I would put a call out to people who are currently working > on > > related projects to officially joint the Apache Wave community. > Contribute > > some code, whatever that may be. Help start a proof of concept for an OT > > Engine, work on the client server protocol, whatever you want to do, > come do > > it here. > > > > Together we can keep our collective momentum. Become a committer here. > We > > need you. > > > > Sincere Regards, > > > > ~Michael > > > > >
