Also, specifically for 29938: I tested it and it appears to break the
TEST_DEBUG usage.

So in my view it strengthens the case for having the
non-performance-critical code that is the obvious to read and modify.

--a

On 11/18/20, Andrew Yourtchenko via lists.fd.io
<ayourtch=gmail....@lists.fd.io> wrote:
>
>
>> On 18 Nov 2020, at 04:35, Paul Vinciguerra <pvi...@vinciconsulting.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> reposting to the list.
>>
>> 2400 for each 'make test' run.
>
> Yeah so then it probably would make less than a second of run time - in this
> case I would squarely optimize for a better readability by the unsuspecting
> person later on.
>
> Arguably it’s a trickier criterion though, since probably depends on what
> one is used to.
>
> —a
>
>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 10:27 PM Paul Vinciguerra
>>> <pvi...@vinciconsulting.com> wrote:
>>> 2400 for each 'make test' run.
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 5:48 PM Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
>>>> <ayour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Paul, is it 2400 comparisons per single test or 2400 comparisons in
>>>> total ?
>>>>
>>>> If the latter, I would rather optimize for readability, since it’s
>>>> probably less than a second of run time.
>>>>
>>>> Specifically about the example with debugging of internals - replacing
>>>> the hooks with subclassing hinders the intent imho - for that particular
>>>> case.
>>>>
>>>> --a
>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 Nov 2020, at 19:50, Paul Vinciguerra
>>>>>> <pvi...@vinciconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok.  This is a backwards request.  I'm asking for help trying to
>>>>> explain properly why I've -2'd a change.  The code is both useful to
>>>>> the community and cleanly written.  I think the plumbing needs some
>>>>> help.  When we find someone who is willing and able to contribute, I'd
>>>>> like to not frustrate them away.
>>>>>
>>>>> At a high level, when we run tests, the makefile sets up a specific
>>>>> environment that is passed to run_tests.py (which is a
>>>>> re-implementation of the python stdlib unittest. test runner).  The
>>>>> test runner does discovery, that is that it finds all the tests that
>>>>> match a customized string, and builds a list of tests which are either
>>>>> run serially or forked in parallel.
>>>>>
>>>>> What people have done is put conditional logic in the test case and
>>>>> change the behavior after the test has started.  I consider this
>>>>> analogous to you unrolling a loop and me coming by and testing if 1==2
>>>>> for each element of your unrolled loop.
>>>>>
>>>>> The test should instead be done once in the runner, instead of 2400 or
>>>>> so times for every submission into the gate.
>>>>>
>>>>> To explain this, I cherry-picked some of my code and submitted it as an
>>>>> example.  My example is here:  https://gerrit.fd.io/r/c/vpp/+/29938.
>>>>> It' not something I planned to contribute, but I changed it enough to
>>>>> get it to pass the date.
>>>>>
>>>>> The commit I am blocking is here: https://gerrit.fd.io/r/c/vpp/+/29921
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> How do I, with limited cycles, convey what needs to be done without
>>>>> writing sample code or going in and patching over someone's work.
>>>>> The code is well written and I'd rather +2 it and try to coax some more
>>>>> contributions.  ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
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