> On 18 Nov 2020, at 04:35, Paul Vinciguerra <pvi...@vinciconsulting.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> reposting to the list.
> 
> 2400 for each 'make test' run.

Yeah so then it probably would make less than a second of run time - in this 
case I would squarely optimize for a better readability by the unsuspecting 
person later on.

Arguably it’s a trickier criterion though, since probably depends on what one 
is used to.

—a

> 
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 10:27 PM Paul Vinciguerra 
>> <pvi...@vinciconsulting.com> wrote:
>> 2400 for each 'make test' run.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 5:48 PM Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko <ayour...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Paul, is it 2400 comparisons per single test or 2400 comparisons in total ?
>>> 
>>> If the latter, I would rather optimize for readability, since it’s probably 
>>> less than a second of run time.
>>> 
>>> Specifically about the example with debugging of internals - replacing the 
>>> hooks with subclassing hinders the intent imho - for that particular case.
>>> 
>>> --a
>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Nov 2020, at 19:50, Paul Vinciguerra <pvi...@vinciconsulting.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ok.  This is a backwards request.  I'm asking for help trying to explain 
>>>> properly why I've -2'd a change.  The code is both useful to the community 
>>>> and cleanly written.  I think the plumbing needs some help.  When we find 
>>>> someone who is willing and able to contribute, I'd like to not frustrate 
>>>> them away.
>>>> 
>>>> At a high level, when we run tests, the makefile sets up a specific 
>>>> environment that is passed to run_tests.py (which is a re-implementation 
>>>> of the python stdlib unittest. test runner).  The test runner does 
>>>> discovery, that is that it finds all the tests that match a customized 
>>>> string, and builds a list of tests which are either run serially or forked 
>>>> in parallel.
>>>> 
>>>> What people have done is put conditional logic in the test case and change 
>>>> the behavior after the test has started.  I consider this analogous to you 
>>>> unrolling a loop and me coming by and testing if 1==2 for each element of 
>>>> your unrolled loop.
>>>> 
>>>> The test should instead be done once in the runner, instead of 2400 or so 
>>>> times for every submission into the gate.
>>>> 
>>>> To explain this, I cherry-picked some of my code and submitted it as an 
>>>> example.  My example is here:  https://gerrit.fd.io/r/c/vpp/+/29938. It' 
>>>> not something I planned to contribute, but I changed it enough to get it 
>>>> to pass the date.
>>>> 
>>>> The commit I am blocking is here: https://gerrit.fd.io/r/c/vpp/+/29921 .
>>>> 
>>>> How do I, with limited cycles, convey what needs to be done without 
>>>> writing sample code or going in and patching over someone's work.
>>>> The code is well written and I'd rather +2 it and try to coax some more 
>>>> contributions.  ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Paul 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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