Jones, My knowledge is mostly vacuum evaporation and vacuum condensing in industry and I cannot really "hang" at the nuclear level. In relating LENR/Rossi to what we are seeing happening at the macro level, I believe that vacuum particles/strings can cool and condense a gaseous surrounding, which I call "pulling a vacuum". They may extract "entropy" from the gas to do this, lowering the pressure/temperature.
If Rossi's device is interacting with the vacuum/creating vacuum particles, possibly it is cooling slightly the gaseous center of the device through vacuum condensing of gas before the particles decay quickly and "blink out" To me this would explain why sunspots are colder than their surroundings and those magnetic strings leaving those sites are hot in the corona and why Venus' atmosphere, although 700+ degrees, still has condensed clouds of SO2 swirling around, which condenses below 14F. Interestingly Venus' magnetic field appears similar to a comet: >From Wilkipedia: On January 29, 2013, ESA <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESA> scientists reported that the ionosphere <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionosphere> of the planet Venus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus> streams outwards in a manner similar to "the ion tail seen streaming from a comet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet> under similar conditions."[10]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus#cite_note-ESA-20130129-10> [11<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus#cite_note-Space-20130130-11> Like I said before, Rossi might be making "baby comets" or branes (multi-dimensional black holes) if you are a string theory proponent like me, which is really just vacuum energy. Stewart On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > Let me confess that the real subject of this post is LENR and not Venus per > se. > > I was struck by the coincidence that Venus has similar size, gravity, and > bulk composition to Earth BUT is so much hotter than any other planet by > far; and the surface temperature is an exact match for 15 THz - which seems > to be correlated to excess heat in some LENR experiments. However, the > causal connection of the planet to this spectrum is beyond slim. > > I should also mention that Mitchell Swartz may have preceded Letts and > Cravens with using laser irradiation as a massive boost in LENR gain - and > the contribution of the former is to find this "beat frequency" between two > lasers that are in the visible spectrum. > > But is the IR signature of Venus completely unrelated to its great heat - > in > addition to the obvious cause: which is increased solar energy retention? > Doubt it - but this premise cannot be written off without understanding the > importance of 15 THz in LENR. > > I am now wondering if this IR spectrum <-> temperature equivalent is not > related to the Rossi HotCat somehow? For instance, as wrong as it sounds on > first blush, can any thermal device function in such a way convert a hotter > blackbody surface temperature into a slightly cooler but coherent infrared > interior temperature? > > From: ChemE Stewart > > I think closer in to the Sun Venus gets the brunt of those > billions of tons of "energetic particles" the Sun is spitting out daily in > all different directions, by the time they reach Earth they have decayed > some more and are at lower energies. I think instead of just bending > spacetime around her the Sun is collapsing it through this continuous > stream > of particles. > > > * Venus is made of the same stuff of Earth, almost twins - except for > water. > Venus is bone-dry and hot enough to melt lead at 836 degrees F (447 degrees > C), and has a thick atmosphere but no water vapor is there. Earth harbors > an > enormous volume of water, even if its interior is possibly hotter than > Venus. Venus is closer to the sun, and probably had as much water as earth > at one time but heated up early-on to this temperature and then poof - the > water disappeared, billions of years ago. > > Why should you care how hot it is there or why Venus has no water? > > Hmmm... well the reason that I found these seemingly unconnected factoids > interesting, was in surfing the internet - in pursuit of 15 THz and LENR. > > 15 THz could be one key to LENR. If you don't believe me look up the papers > by Hagelstein, Cravens and Letts. > > What !?! you ask. Where is the connection? > > Well, it seems that 15 THz is 20 micron wavelength. A photon of 20 microns > has a mass energy of .062 eV. > > .062 eV is equivalent to 447 C (836 F and 720 K). Curiously this is the > exact temperature of Venus. If you want to experience what 15 Terahertz > looks like, hurry out with a telescope and find Venus in the night sky. It > is in the far infrared and would glow even without reflected sunlight. > > And 15 THz is a water resonant frequency ... but catch-22 Venus has no > water. Is there a connection in all of this, or is it coincidence ? > > Not sure ... just doing a little googling and angling, so to speak - > throwing out provocative associations like bait. :-) > > Hoping to haul in a big one someday... >
