I'm saying that the process of energy release requires many quanta,
each with a small energy, to be released during the fusion process.
These photons have too little energy for many to leave the apparatus.
Heat is generated as they are absorbed by the material. This condition
is basic to the CF effect.
Ed
On Jun 9, 2013, at 7:34 PM, James Bowery wrote:
So if I understand your argument correctly, even though the detected
energy flux of high energy photons/particles has been minuscule
compared to the total energy measured from LENR experiments, it is
still enough to account for substantial biological disruption at the
scales of metabolic energy necessary for life.
As you say, it will be interesting to see the arithmetic for this
laid out more precisely when LENR research is widely funded.
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Edmund Storms
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Jun 9, 2013, at 6:27 PM, James Bowery wrote:
The idea that emitted radiation from LENR is harmful to organisms
runs counter to most thought about LENR energy release. I'm not
saying most thought about LENR energy is right, you understand --
I'm just saying that if we explain away this "miracle" by that
means, we should certainly question such claims of "harmlessness"
of LENR radiation.
LENR produces radiation. This is the only way the energy can be
dissipated. The only unknown is the energy of the radiation and,
therefore, how much can escape from the apparatus to be detected.
Many measurements have detected a small fraction of the radiation,
so we know it exists. We know that radiation is harmful to life,
depending on its energy, because it disrupts the DNA. The facts
are in place to provide an explanation. The only question is whether
the facts will be used.
As for cockroaches -- if we find they evolved radiation hardening
in response to use of BNAEs (biological nuclear active
environments) then we have to ask the obvious question: What is
the enormous evolutionary cost to such radiation hardening that
kept it from spreading throughout life? Moreover, how did
cockroaches cross that cost barrier to get the benefit of the BNAE?
Good question. Obviously that barrier is not easy to cross.
Nevertheless, many organisms are known to be immune to radiation. I
offered the cockroach as a well-know example. Perhaps experience
with LENR will now give permission to test such life forms for
nuclear products, which is not presently done.
Ed
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Edmund Storms
<[email protected]> wrote:
The LENR energy source has a down side. It is not a source of free
energy to a biological system. The emitted radiation would be
obviously harmful. Consequently, the source would be only employed
when this is the only way to avoid death. Fortunately, evolution
has found better ways to get energy. Nevertheless, the energy
source of all life-forms has not been identified. I can imagine
that some single-cell organisms use fusion and transmutation as
sources of energy, but these are rare and generally occupy
environments inaccessible to biologists where the easy sources of
energy are not available.
In addition, what biologist would suggest that bacteria appear to
be causing a nuclear reaction without being able to show very
strong evidence, which is obviously not easy to get? You can now
see the reaction to this idea even in the face of strong evidence
that the effect is real.
You might ask why cockroaches are very immune to radiation? Why did
evolution give this protection unless they had to be defended from
radiation. Has anyone measured the exact energy source used by a
cockroach?
Ed
On Jun 9, 2013, at 4:15 PM, James Bowery wrote:
The subject say it all, really: 'Yet Another LENR "Miracle":
Evolution Didn't Find It'
If an energy source as abundant and ubiquitous as LENR appears to
be exists, why wouldn't evolution have found ways of creating the
NAE (nuclear active environment)? If you say "It did." then you
have to explain why the manifest evolutionary advantages of such an
energy source didn't cause it to become wide-spread enough to have
baffled biochemists in the course of their analysis of metabolism.