On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:40 AM, francis <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thursday June 6th Harry said ****
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> Ok, I realise why we diverge in our approaches to your model. I don't start
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> with the assumption that the lattice is in a state of thermal equilibrium.
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> I assume the presence of thermal fluxes and perhaps other energy fluxes***
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> as well which can do small amounts of work on the hydrotons. If these local
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> fluxes are sporadic excess heat production will be sporadic as well.****
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> Harry, I share your position and think this is also due to the quantum
> effect of the geometry. I think the suppression concentrated in the NAE
> must be balanced by a “diluted” region outside the cavity walls that
> responsible for this “segregation” of vacuum pressure… although vacuum
> wavelengths appear much shorter inside a cavity they must, IMHO, appear
> slightly longer spread over the atoms behind the cavity to avoid a COE
> violation..you aren’t getting something for nothing..the geometry is simply
> segregating pressure like Chicago city scape separates wind. This by itself
> won’t give us any source of energy since it is just a hill to run up and
> roll down but there has always been an energy source associated with gas
> motion.. you have temperature which will fall when harnessed and then you
> also have HUP which keeps helium from freezing solid even at 0 kelvin that
> can never be exhausted.  We are told HUP which is responsible for the
> random motion of gas is unusable energy that can’t be considered under
> conservation of energy –They say a Maxwellian demon to separate hot from
> cold is impossible to implement at OU. I disagree, I think the NAE pits
> different forces of nature against each other to create heat and cold via a
> back door method. You have physical confinement and axial alignment of H2,
> you have supplied ambient heat forcing motion to initiate the process, You
> have Ed’s energy sink due to opposing charges on either side of the cavity
> where resonance causes the nucleus to emit energy as photons, or, my model
> of near disassociation f/h molecules getting the threshold discounted by
> the force trying to change the fractional value which only gives of a
> single photon upon reassociatio at the new f/h level.. Granted both forces
> go back to the same initial source..virtual particle pairs but they are on
> vastly different scales where one is very fast comparable to ac current
> moving gas atoms while the other is a locally accumulated pressure – a
> small gravity hill with a concentrated peak in the cavity and a wide valley
> extending out from the cavity walls   that segregates the pressure we
> consider isotropic out here in the macro world. Anomalous cooling and
> retarded radioactive decay of gases  are harder to detect but have both
> been reported..just not as concentrated or as frequently as anomalous heat
> and accelerated decay. My posit is that beyond diffusion the random motion
> of gas is harnessed to keep Ed’s hydrotron resonanting or pushing my near
> disassociation f/h over the threshold so it can form another molecule. ***
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> Fran****
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Would you agree that a violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics is
equivalent to violating conservation of momentum while still obeying
conservation of energy?

Harry




Harry

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