On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Joshua Cude <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:50 PM, John Berry <[email protected]>wrote: > >> There is one very very simple truth. >> >> Many will never believe right up until a technology is widely available. >> >> > > If so, I think it will be a first. I am not aware of a phenomenon that was > widely rejected by the mainstream until a successful technology became > widely available. > Flight. Rockets working in space. There are always those small minded eager to denouce anything worthwhile or extraordinary. Want more, vacuum, telescopes if we go to an older age. Oh, germs. I can think of others but you are just making my point. You aren't work the electrons. You should know these examples like you should know the basics of electromagnetism. It isn't worth arguing with every person of limited vision, education, understanding, in other words the ignorant. Because the ignorant ignore things, the uneducated can al least be taught, but not those willingly ignorant. And energy densities a million times that of dynamite is not a subtle > thing. It should be as demonstrable as the Wright's 1908 flight, which > converted all serious skeptics long before commercial flight. > > > No demonstration could convince them, maybe not even if they ran it >> themselves. >> >> > > Utter nonsense. A completely isolated device that generates heat orders of > magnitude beyond its weight in gasoline would convince anyone. > No, because magic tricks are mighty hard to rule out if one is paranoid and creative enough, especially when people refuse to accept evidence. (maybe energy is being beamed wirelessly etc...) There are many cases of cold fusion showing such outputs, I recall blocks of palladium sometimes violently exploding with energies that could be be accounted for. It is pretty much impossible to do any demonstration that will alone convince anyone determined not to believe. Additionally such demonstrations are done and then sceptics will turn a blind eye to such evidence. Oh, I just thought on another thing denied by certain believers in religion, Dinosaurs. Now I know you think you are more rational than that, but I'm afraid I don't think you are really. Skeptics would change their minds in a heart beat with good evidence, just > as they did in 1908. But there is nothing that will convince true believers > in cold fusion that they are wrong. > So everyone believed after the first test you think? Nope! But this subject shows the true nature of the sceptic. Flight is in many ways extraordinary and wonderful. It is also achieved by birds, and hence a caveman knows that a heavier than air object can fly. But sceptics to the concept existed not because there is any scientific reason to think that flight is impossible or that birds are hoaxers. But because their position is to oppose any worthwhile development, anything extraordinary however reasonable it may be. All this exchange has proven is the obvious, that there are those who are not worth any discussion. So I will avoid responding to any more trolling. John
