[This was sent to Yamali Yamali instead of Vortex. He should adjust his e-mail.]

Yamali Yamali <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

   Jed wrote: "I do not think it takes long for an electrical engineer
   to conclude that there is no possibility of fraud in these tests."

   I bet you won't find any EE with any experience in the business who
   would sign such a statement.


The Elforsk web page announcement is better than a signed statement, in my opinion. So was EPRI's statement. A conclusion issued by an organization carries more weight than statement signed by one EE.

Along the same lines, when the CEO of National Instruments gave a 20 minute video recorded presentation about cold fusion in front of thousands of employees, that was a bigger commitment and more convincing that brief statement from a corporate executive that "yes, we have consulted with Rossi and others." Anyone who still claims the NI has no interest in cold fusion is nuts.

Also, no EE here or anywhere else has presented a serious description of how this might be fraud. Diagrams showing hidden wires and claims that you can add a circuit to an electronic device that magically makes 900 W of electricity look like 300 W are not serious. As David Roberson points out, an EE who actually believes such things will put together an electronic SPICE model to demonstrate the claim.

Cude has waved his hands and said there might be a method of deception that he has not thought of yet. As I have often pointed out, such assertions cannot be tested or falsified. There might be an error in Ohm's law we have not yet discovered, but until you specify what that error actually is, you have no basis for arguing that law may be wrong.

- Jed

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