Andy,

Check out the picture on the link below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino

If it happens in the atmosphere we call it a warm sunny day.

If it happens in a void with hydrogen in the dark we gaze in amazement and
ask for money.

Go figure.

Stewart
Darkmattersalot.com

On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Andy Findlay wrote:

>  I wasn't aware that hydrogen was capable of beta decay.
> Andy.
>
> On 27/11/12 23:03, ChemE Stewart wrote:
>
> If billions of neutrinos are flowing through all matter all of the time,
> if you pack enough hydrogen in a concentrated area you are bound to get a
> head on collision now or then leading to beta decay. Probably also leads to
> hydrogen embrittlement over time and maybe the gravitational acceleration
> we all experience when we stand on our dark matter nucleus planets...
>
>  We humans are just the beta decay frosting on the cake.
>
>  http://theta13.lbl.gov/neutrinos_universe/neutrinos_01.html
>
>  Stewart
> Darkmattersalot.com
>
> On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Andy Findlay wrote:
>
>>  Does anybody know of a sensible counter-argument (or maybe even a peer
>> reviewed refutation) to the idea that the anomalous heat of
>> cold-fusion/LENR might just be due to a Wigner-(like)-Effect?
>>
>> I had never heard of the Wigner 
>> Effect<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigner_effect>until a couple of days ago 
>> when I was reading about the Windscale
>> fire <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windscale_fire> (sorry about the use
>> of Wikipedia links).
>>
>> It got me thinking about whether the documented swelling of palladium
>> during loading could lead to a similar Wigner (like) Effect deformation of
>> the palladium lattice which could then release stored energy abruptly - as
>> happened in the graphite moderators in the Windscale fire.
>>
>> Following up on this, I found Douglas R.O. Morrison's Cold Fusion 
>> News<http://newenergytimes.com/v2/archives/DROM/14.shtml>article on NETwhich 
>> includes the following paragraph:
>>
>> "Prof. Bockris of Texas A&M give a talk entitled "Seven Chemical
>> Explanations of the Fleischmann-Pons effect" where he estimated the heat
>> excess produced but always got values much less than the early claims of
>> F-P and of Huggins of the order of 10 Watts - the highest he calculated was
>> 0.9 W for the Pauling suggestion of PdH2 formation. He was asked about the
>> Wigner effect, but had not considered it* [ comment - this is a
>> favourite explanation of many people. It was responsible for a large
>> release of radioactivity in about 1957 at Windscale - the neutrons absorbed
>> by the graphite had stored a lot of energy in the graphite by changing its
>> structure and the subsequent release of this energy caused the trouble. It
>> had previously been predicted by Wigner. Similarly the absorption of
>> hydrogen or of deuterium by palladium causes the palladium to swell and
>> this stores a lot of energy in the cathode. When the loading stops (e.g.
>> the current is switched off or the level of the electrolyte falls and
>> exposes part of the cathode), then this Wigner energy can be released]."
>>
>> *Obviously I missed out on part of the cold fusion story.
>>
>> So, counter-arguments?
>>
>> Andy.
>>
>
>

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