I suggest that the statement about the average Vortician is not called for.   
Who placed you in a category above the others of the collective?

Enough said.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>; vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes - dangerous?


At 04:55 PM 8/20/2012, [email protected] wrote:
>In reply to  David Roberson's message of Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:27:41 
>-0400 (EDT):
>Hi,
>
>That would be consistent with my suggestion below.
>
> >
> >I have always wondered exactly what happens to matter that is 
> heading directly toward the singularity.  Doesn't time for the 
> matter slow down due to the intense gravity to such a degree that 
> it appears to stop in mid path at the horizon from our observation 
perspective?

Well, I suppose it's too much to expect for the average Vortician to 
understand relativity.

Time does not slow down in any inertial reference frame. Like ours. 
If matter is attracted by gravity, it accelerates according to the 
gravitational field. It will not appear to stop as it approaches any 
point. However, its velocity is limited by the speed of light. As I 
understand this, it will be sweallowed by the black hole. It will not 
stop at the event horizon. Its momentum will become part of the 
momentum of the black hole. (Momentum is conserved, and so is energy.)

Time dilation means something else. If the matter falling in is 
radioactive, for example, with a certain half-life, as the matter is 
gravitationally accelerated, the decay rate, to us, would appear to 
slow down. As the matter approaches the speed of light, the decays we 
could see would slow toward a rate of zero.

I don't want to make up more than that at the moment. Putting 
together the relativistic effects of gravity with those purely 
resulting from relative velocity hurts my head.

(Time dilation is actually easy to understand, if one accepts that 
the speed of light in a vacuum is constant in all frames of 
reference, no matter what their relative velocity. It falls out 
easily from that.) 


 

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