I am beginning to get the impression that you are not a fan of the Widom Larsen 
theory.  That is not a difficulty as far as I can determine since my question 
is mainly an attempt to approach the problem from another point of view.  It 
seems that we are spending a lot of effort trying to figure out where the net 
activation energy arises when I think it is a good idea to look for that energy 
from within the reaction products.  There is more than enough energy released 
by the LENR effect than required to initialize it.  Does it not seem logical to 
search for the missing energy in a location which has excess energy?

The correct LENR theory may already exist in some form, but I have not detected 
anything resembling a consensus thus far.  What experiments can be conducted to 
weed out the concepts that are not correct?  Are there any ideal tests that 
would prove a particular theory beyond reasonable doubt?

Please understand that I am attempting to think outside of the normal box.  
Sometimes an alternate approach to problems ignites a fuse.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:49 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:A brief, semi-classical take on Widom-Larsen theory


Not sure where you are going with this - but the simple explanation of all
s it cannot happen, due to conservation of spin.
Two half-spin fermions cannot fuse to form a half-spin neutron. Otherwise
ydrogen would be unstable and spontaneously form neutrons. 
                From: David Roberson 
                I have a question that has bugged me for quite some time now
nd maybe one of you would humor me with a simple explanation.
         
        Do we have to consider the total energy required for a P + e
o become a N to have to arise out of a non active material?  
Oh sure - if you have a relativistic beam line with which to arbitrarily
onvert energy into mass of any variety, such as creating a neutrino to
arry away the extra spin - then you can do it; but the energy balance is so
op-sided that it is irrelevant for practical purposes.
Once again, Widom Larsen theory is brain dead from start to finish.
Jones

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