A NiH reactor will dissipate any electric potential required to meet the 750K Ev constraint for P+E to N production as fast as it is formed. The reactor walls are grounded and EMF will flow through the hydrogen plasma to the grounded reactor walls.
W+L may happen in some systems but I can’t see how it could happen in a Rossi reactor or it’s like. Hydrogen plasma will short circuit the entire L+W process. The heavy electrons will follow the heat through the hydrogen plasma right out the reactor vessel walls into the coolant. I like coherence as an explanation of cold fusion because such a system is responsive to decoherence as an energy production mechanism. In a coherent system, a cosmic ray trigger like a million other things, is an interface or interaction to the external world. This interaction is called in QM terminology decoherence. Anytime a coherent system interacts (i.e. produces energy) with the outside world, decoherence occurs. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:39 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a question that has bugged me for quite some time now and maybe one > of you would humor me with a simple explanation. > > Do we have to consider the total energy required for a P + e to become a N > to have to arise out of a non active material? By this I refer to a > material that is not currently generating LENR reactions until the > conversion is met. > > I ask this question because it appears that the actual LENR reactions > release much more energy than that required to initiate the next one. Why > are we not able to "steal" some energy and be on our merry way? > > My assumption is that the first reaction is a result of an external effect > such as a cosmic ray trigger. Thanks for advancing my understanding of the > phenomenon. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pagnucco <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 3:01 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:A brief, semi-classical take on Widom-Larsen theory > > Alain, > > I am trying to find minimal semi-classical models for W-L theory. > Quantum W-L theory requires intense local e-m fields. > > Metallic nano-structures can super-focus coulomb and magnetic fields. > Surface probes show huge amplifications at nano-sized "hotspots" - even > after 2-Dimensional filtering which smudges and attenuates peaks. > > Does a "hotspot" electron passing free protons (with equal, opposite > momentum) or an immobile proton experience enough ampere force long enough > to overcome the 780 KeV barrier, producing a ULMN? > > Using classical physics, the two references I cited indicate that in > nanostructures, conduction electrons' momentum, inertial mass and magnetic > energy can be vastly larger than in macroscopic circuits. Maybe a > semi-classical analysis can yield reasonable results - if actual field > strengths, charge densities, electron velocities,... are used? > Are entanglement, nonlocality, Bose condenscation, ... really needed? > > I'm uncertain. Good data is hard to find. > > Thanks for the reply, > Lou Pagnucco > > > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Alain Sepeda wrote: > > if you red WL theory, they say that the neutrons are generated > from coherents pairs of p+e, and the result is a group of possible neutrons > widely distributed among the coherents p, thus slow and delocalized > a kind of schodinger cat gang > > > most are alive, but one is dead, but nobody knows which, so the dead cat is > wide, thus slow > > 2012/2/16 <[email protected]> > > > W-L LENR theory claims ultra-low momentum neutrons (ULMNs) are created > > - quite surprising if due to high kinetic energy e-p collisions. > > > > Overcoming the electroweak effective potential barrier that repels > > an electron from a proton (= udu 'quark bag') requires 780 KeV. > > > > Can slow (non-relativistic) electrons climb the barrier by borrowing > > just enough potential magnetic (but no kinetic) energy - leaving ULMNs? > > > > As shown in [1], in nanowires. almost no conduction electron energy is > > kinetic. Almost all is likely stored in virtual exchange photons. > > > > On metal hydride nano-particle surfaces, plasma electrons and protons > > can oscillate in parallel and opposite directions . > > -- When velocity = 0, coulomb force brings some e-p pairs together > > -- as velocity increases, magnetic ampere force pinches e-p pairs closer > > > > Semiclassically, this increasing ampere force is equivalent to a rising > > linear potential in a time-varying Schroedinger equation - Graphically: > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > PLASMONIC OScILLATION: TRANSFERING 'MAGNETIC ENERGY' > > > > MIN PLASMON AMPLITUDE ----------------> AMPLITUDE INCREASES > > MIN AMPERE FORCE ----------------> AMPERE FORCE RISES > > MIN LINEAR POTENTIAL ----------------> LINEAR POTENTIAL RISES > > > > ^ ^ ^ ^ > > . . . . > > \ . \ . \ . \. > > \ . \ . \ . \ e > > \ . +-+ +-- \ . +-+ +- \ . +-+ +- |:+- > > \ . | | | ^ \ . | | | \.e| | | |:| > > \ . | | | | \ . | | | \_| | | |:| > > \ . | | | | \ | | | | | |V| > > \ | | |780 \ e| | | | | | | > > \ | |u|KeV \_| |u| |u| |u| > > \ | |d| | |d| |d| |d| --> ULMN (ddu) > > \ e| |u| | |u| |u| |u| + neutrino > > \_| |_| V |_| |_| |_| > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > An electron arriving at a potential wall is pushed forward by the > > magnetic coupling to millions of conduction electrons and back-reacts > > by borrowing some of their collective momentum (Newton's 3rd Law). > > > > Ref[2] shows that electrons in nanowires can acquire enormous inertial > > mass from this coupling - distinct, I believe, from relavistic mass > > - which may make the surface plasma appear as an extremely viscous > > fluid to gamma rays, and could trap most high-energy gammas. > > > > > > [1]"How Much of Magnetic Energy is Kinetic Energy?" - Kirk T. McDonald > > http://puhep1.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/kinetic.pdf > > > > [2]"Extremely Low Frequency Plasmons in Metallic Microstructures" > > http://www.cmth.ph.ic.ac.uk/photonics/Newphotonics/pdf/lfplslet.pdf > > > > Comments/corrections very welcome, > > Lou Pagnucco > > >
