OK, so I got a bit frustrated when the white flag was spit upon. I admit that and I am sorry.
I guess I do not recall making a big deal about agents of Big Oil, since I do not think that they are keyed into the future yet. Reset that thought if you think it was one of my beliefs. We are in agreement that a calm, honest discussion of the facts would be useful and I will be happy to accommodate you with that. I have never been blindly following Mr. Rossi without seeking the truth. My analysis has always been about facts and will continue to be so. As I have stated before, I have come to many conclusions that a lot of Rossi supporters do not believe and I suspect that will continue to be true. I want to make one observation for you and others to consider. If the output power delivered during the test were in the range of 500 kW, then all of the vapor exiting toward the heat exchanger would be high quality. There would be little water collected within the trap set by the HVAC engineer and every measurement obtained during the October 28 test would fall into place. This match between theory and measured fact is not a coincidence and should stand under any honest scrutiny. The skeptic position is that very little if any of the water was vaporized. This is total non sense and will be easily dismissed when facing the real world conditions. I prefer to start with the most basic assumptions and then build upon them as we prove whether or not Rossi has a true system. Each proven point will lead to further proofs as the model advances. There is no way to skip the basics and come up with a complete, accurate picture. If we are to proceed, I suggest that a good starting point is to estimate the pressure within the steam output pipes. My first guess would be ~5 psi, but I am confident that we have some members of vortex who can obtain a more accurate calculation so I yield the floor to them. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Charles Hope <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Nov 20, 2011 2:25 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:How should I demonstrate LENR, if I can reproduce it? On Nov 20, 2011, at 0:52, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: I made a good faith effort to explain the system to one of them to no avail. That particular one refused to discuss the operation of Rossi's 1 MW system in details point by point. It is apparent that he realized that his argument was being dismissed and ran for cover. Maybe he was afraid that he would have to accept the fact that Rossi's test was valid once his misconceptions were revealed. That's not what I saw. I saw you start with insults, then begin rational dialogue, get frustrated, and switch back to the insults. You didn't give the scientific discussion with Cude more than two days. I would like to see more scientific discussion. And also less dumb speculation about folks being paid agents of Big Oil.

