I think your post is on the mark.  (no pun intended)

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 15, 2011 2:07 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Rossi Deserves Our Gratitude


>From my perspective gleaned from many months of Rossi watching, Rossi is not 
>attempting to perpetrate a SCAM. If SCAMMING was Rossi’s intent, why would 
>Rossi complicate each and every demo with a new reactor design? 
No, Rossi wants to perfect his invention through these numerous dog and pony 
shows and has complicated each one in their turn by adding new unknowns to 
serve to only confuse his scamming message, and then compound the confusion by 
making an attempt to keep the details of his design changes a secret.
 In an effective SCAM, just keep the scam simple and get the money quick on the 
way out of town.
I can’t see past why Rossi would confuse his scam attempt by completely 
changing his design over and over and over again. This goes against my concept 
of how a good scam should be done.  
 This scam, if it is one, is taking way too long and is very confusing and 
convoluted which is against everything that a good scam should be.
 
I can guarantee you that if Rossi's machine worked…
It’s all in the meaning of the word WORKED…
The E-Cat works to a 1.0 release level. 
Remember when Microsoft released their initial operating system? It was almost 
useless but fun to play with. It would not support any mission critical real 
world functions but it had promise…great promise. It would take Microsoft 
decades to perfect their product. With every day that passed it would have a 
few less bugs and would stay up just a little longer. Rossi has just released 
Cold Fusion 1.0. He will need many years to perfect his new invention to 
mission critical capability in industry.
 

1.0 releases are infamous for the aggravation that they cause. If you are a 
first adopter and and a cold fusion geek who desn't mind some extensive and 
never ending back and forth with the vender, you will have a ball, otherwise if 
you need the reactor to do a job, your experience as Rossi's customer will be 
hell.

 
 
 



On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Mary Yugo <[email protected]> wrote:



Rossi and other other researchers have encountered opposition from people in 
other ways. Especially from people such as Yugo and Park who accuse them of 
being frauds.




I never said Rossi *is* a fraud.  I have said many times and many different 
ways that his overall story is unlikely and that he *could be* a fraud.  That's 
not the same thing.  

I also said that Rossi could easily prove any number of different safe ways 
that he's not a fraud.  YOU (Jed) have told him the methods yourself many times 
and he has never availed himself of them. You keep saying the results of 
Rossi's demos were obvious but there is continuing disagreement over that from 
very smart people so you could be wrong. You have said Rossi lies at times but 
somehow that his lies exempt claims about his device's performance.  That makes 
no sense.  You and others persist in making unlikely excuses for Rossi.   

Rossi's problem is a failure to conduct his tests properly and to get 
independent testing.  The skeptics merely point this out.  They also point out 
simple and safe, inexpensive ways to remedy the problems.  It's Rossi's fault, 
not the fault of the skeptics,  that he doesn't follow your advice, much less 
skeptics' advice.  

Axil sees a cat and mouse game.  I can guarantee you that if Rossi's machine 
worked and he showed it to just one reliable, intelligent, wealthy and 
influential person, a robust source of fusion energy from inexpensive fuel 
would be no cat and mouse game.  Not for very long.



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