Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
> 
> At 04:24 PM 6/22/2011, Harry Veeder wrote:
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > 
> > > Stop right there. You are citing Wikipedia as evidence?
> > 
> > Are you saying that it is wrong and that your conception of RH is right?
> 
> No. That would be stupid unless I spent a lot of time with that article, read 
>and considered the references, etc. What I'm actually saying is that Wikipedia 
>is not an authority at all. If you want to make a citation with some 
>authority, 
>cite the source for the claim in the article. Once upon a time I'd have gone 
>there and done that, and I've found lots of these claims that turn out to be 
>unsupported by the source, the claim in the text was synthesis or original 
>research by the editor.
> 
> But I'm banned on Wikipedia, and I don't waste perfectly good IP or 
> established 
>sock puppets on mere bullshit.
> 
> And maybe the article is right. I'm unconvinced that Mr. Veeder understands 
>what is being said. 
>
> 
 
No I understand what is being said, but I am not at the point of accepting it. 
I'm sorry if my wiki citation rubbed you the way. BTW here is another reference 
from HyperPhysics which also speaks about RH misconceptions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7lAlzMBzLQ 
 
 
There is actually a lot of theory in play here. In the time since your 
response, 
Joshua and Mark had this exchange about RH.
 
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joshua:The ratio of the partial pressure of the water vapor to the vapor 
pressure of 

water is the relative humidity. 

mark:The physics definition for RH is:
%RH = (Pw/Ps)*100
Where Pw is the partial pressure of the water vapor and Ps is the saturation 
pressure of water vapor... 
What's the 'vapor pressure of water'... sound like you're making this shit up.

joshua: Nope.
"Vapor pressure or equilibrium vapor pressure is the pressure of 
a vapor in thermodynamic equilibrium with its condensed phases in a closed 
system. "
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In this context we are not dealing with a closed system. Yet there seems to be 
two kinds of relative humdidity. One which speaks of saturation and one 
which does not. If saturation pressure pertains to an open system then there 
are 
two definitions of RH which aren't equivalent.
  
 
Harry

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