Jones,
Jones, I liked your wording [snip] "we know that the Casimir
effect can be either attractive or repulsive, depending on small variations in
geometry. But it is a force, and until recently has not been claimed to be a
CONDUIT for ZPE, in an active sense."[/snip] ---Your description makes it clear
Casimir force is only a CONDUIT for ZPE and by itself can not result in any net
gain any more than 2 magnets being pulled apart and then allowed to self
attract back together. I will adopt your phrase going forward.
You then go on to say [snip] "Moreover, if there is a 'dynamic Casimir effect'
in the sense of an ongoing heating effect, then it is likely that there could
also be an ongoing cooling effect, when those small changes in geometry happen.
This is counterintuitive. But if both dynamic effects can be documented, as
predicted, then it makes a much better case for the general hypothesis (as
opposed to only a heating effect). [/snip] --- which I agree with and did
reply to already citing the Reifenschweiler effect - however the term 'dynamic
Casimir effect' might need a better description - "dynamic Casimir effect"
requires moving Casimir geometry where as we are dealing with a tapestry of
stationary Casimir forces with hydrogen atoms migrating between the changes in
geometry so the dynamic effect is only relative to the gas atoms -I don't see
the accumulation of virtual photons between moving plates like they animate for
dynamic Casimir effect on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDzqqsTFywk - I know
that may sound like I am nit picking but I just wanted to clarify that we can
rectify energy solely from nature without any suggestion we have to move plates
- Nature is already moving gas atoms free of charge so all we need is a
rectifying agent that opposes this flow under one condition but not another. I
think the MAHG was pursuing this with oscillations between h1 and h2 but lacked
a closed loop method to load as h1 and then unload the h2 at a discount (cavity
has only 1 opening both entrance and exit) -another reason the Moddel- Haisch
architecture (tunnel vs a cave) is so attractive in that the input and output
environments can be independently manipulated as opposed to cavities where any
closed loop operation is going to mix up the environments as the h1 and h2 try
to load and unload respectively, I think we need to separate these conditions
and control them independently to realize any discounts.
Regards
Fran
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 2:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:More on Ni-H LENR
More on suspected Casimir thermal anomalies - up or down, as they relate to the
subject heading.
These effects, if they are real, may or may not be a "set-up" (preliminary
stage) for eventual LENR, but there seems to be a direct connection, at least
when the experiment is run long enough for transmutation to be observed.
Firstly, we know that the Casimir effect can be either attractive or repulsive,
depending on small variations in geometry. But it is a force, and until
recently has not been claimed to be a conduit for ZPE, in an active sense.
Moreover, if there is a 'dynamic Casimir effect' in the sense of an ongoing
heating effect, then it is likely that there could also be an ongoing cooling
effect, when those small changes in geometry happen. This is counterintuitive.
But if both dynamic effects can be documented, as predicted, then it makes a
much better case for the general hypothesis (as opposed to only a heating
effect).
BTW - the most general hypothesis is that Casimir effects precede LENR in the
sense of changing QM tunneling probabilities, which then lead to nuclear
reactions which are secondarily able to 'balance the books' to eliminate CoE
concerns.
Plus, we know that NO dynamic Casimir effect has been shown to take place at
ambient (~300K): and that in general, with nanopowder such as in the Arata
formula, a "trigger" temperature must be employed. But we have some potentially
new physics with a "dynamical Casimir effect operating in a thermally stressed
condition near the phase-change of the host."
IOW - this additional hypothesis can help to explain parts of both LENR and the
Mills' phenomena, better than anything else in the literature: which is to say
that (one form of) LENR can be described as a ZPE-related QM effect in the
first stage, and that nuclear effects follow, due to enhanced tunneling of
hydrogen isomers.
It is no coincidence that published experiments typically use a nanopowder like
zirconia, which is known to have a pronounced phase-change around the trigger
temperature. To document gain, one needs to run an experiment for hours or days
to eliminate the mundane possibility of exotherm (endotherm) due to the
phase-change. Usually this possibility can be eliminated in less than an hour,
as the net energy available from phase-change is well known and not large for
an ounce or two of Casimir media. Hundreds of times more energy will follow
when a real dynamic effect occurs.
The counterintuitive part is the cooling: how does a higher level "trigger"
become part of a demonstrable cooling effect ? That is where precision
measurement equipment and a proper understanding of "temperature inversion"
comes in. More on this later, but suffice it to say that it is not difficult to
show a strong cooling effect at the same time one is adding continuous heat -
such as when one is riding in a convertible in July with the AC on high, as we
used to do 50 years ago when gas was 35 cents a gallon.
Well, even so, net cooling via ZPE is a quandary, with almost nothing in the
literature, and therefore I thought I was inventing a new term for the simplest
version of it: "inverse recalescence." That is because it is functionally the
inverse of recalescence (if-and-when it happens on a short time frame). For a
longer-term effect, one could call it either "persistent inverse recalescence"
- or preferably: Casimir cooling.
BTW: If you google "inverse recalescence" you will probably get exactly the
same two hits I got, and they are from 1995-96 ... so in this case, you did NOT
hear it first on vortex.
But at least you are ahead of the Wiki-curve, since they do not yet even have a
dedicated entry for "recalescence" (which is a known energetic phase-change
phenomena).
As one can imagine, in order to eliminate all skepticism that these thermal
anomalies are real, and that they are related mostly to hydrogen loading and
NOT a function of the phase-change properties of the adsorbent media alone,
these experiments must be run for extended periods of time.
Jones
