On 12/18/2009 01:34 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
Rick always writes what he means and means what he says. He's the guy
who sells the Bedini kits, there's a 10 coil monopole kit that they
have released, for instance. http://rpmgt.org/order.html
The Bedini Monopole Energizer kit was built by a friend and he came to
the conclusion that it's only for learning-purposes, and can be taken
further (it's possible that mr. Friedrich has upped his ante and knows
and understands more about the Bedini monopole tech - and that the
10-pole energizer would be quite worth looking into. But at that
price? Not sure how much machining something like that would cost, but
they mention it'd be in the tens of thousands of usd? on the page..)
Rick also features on the Energy From The Vacuum series as a spectator
of Bedini showing his stuff, I think in EFTV12 perchance. The detail
here that (I guess) matters, is that Bedini chose Friedrich to make
the kits available via, and Friedrich also sells the Renaissance
charger devices,
The Renaissance gadgets are more or less legit, I think, BTW, but they
depend pretty heavily on the odd properties of lead-acid batteries to
get their effect.
For that matter, the Bedini kits are legit, too, if I can judge by what
I've read about them -- you pay some money, build a little motor, and
have a lot of fun with it. What more can you ask? Connect it to a
battery, and it goes around. Lots of people sell kits of that sort, and
lots of people buy them and have a blast fiddling with them. What's
even better, his motors are weird, which means you get to spend hours
playing with it, trying to figure out what it's really doing, and how it
does it; that's a lot more "money's worth" than you get out of a
conventional wind-your-own motor kit from an educational supply house.
It won't get you off the Grid but then neither will a "bag o' motors"
from Edmund Scientific.
and has relations to Bedini's EnergenX -company. It's
not a random guy shooting the breeze on a mailinglist, if I'm not
completely mistaken, Friedrich maintains some of the monopole lists
and is in general a guy who would know what Bedini is up to, and
what's next.
Looking at what Friedrich wrote about 1/3 of the amps going into the
secondary - he is quite probably talking about the secondary batteries
that get charged while the primary batteries provide the juice for the
transformation process.
That doesn't make sense either, though. If he's pulling "A" amps from
the primaries on a continuous basis, and putting "A/3" amps into the
secondaries, the system's got to run down rather quickly.
Unless, of course, there's something very special about the batteries,
or about the charging method -- but that would be quite independent of
any interesting properties of the motor itself.
Or is he using three batteries at each end, with the primaries wired in
parallel and the secondaries wired in series, and 3x voltage
multiplication in the middle?
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence<[email protected]> wrote:
On 12/16/2009 12:07 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 11:00 AM 12/16/2009, Esa Ruoho wrote:
No he didn't. Esa Ruoho quoted "rickfriedrich" from the bedini_monopole_3
forum. It was "Rick" who was experimenting with the Bedini motor described
here, not Esa, and AFAIK Rick isn't on Vortex.
Rick's batteries are apparently magic, if I understood this quote; he says a
"good number of amps" were "constantly" being drawn [from the batteries?]
but the batteries remained charged; I don't understand that. He must have
meant something other than how I interpreted his words.
I was running the system on smaller used batteries for days and they
remained charged even though a good number of amps were constantly
being drawn and the meter was showing 1/3rd of the amps going back
into the secondary.
Take a hint. Fine to set it up and start it with batteries, but
batteries are tricky to monitor, they don't easily show the exact state
of the charge. Put together a capacitor bank with enough depth (farads)
to cover the draw phase, and charge it up to the battery voltage. Then
once you are running, take the battery out of the circuit. You can then
directly monitor the power storage by monitoring the capacitor voltage.
No guessing. You will know right away if you are over unity, and how
much, or, if you are under unity, exactly how much you are under unity.
The larger the capacitance, the more even the available voltage will be.
I'd think of making it really large, so you would not want to directly
connect the battery to the capacitor, that can melt wires! You'd charge
through a resistor. You could make all this part of one circuit, with a
switch on the battery, or you could eliminate the battery and use a
power supply which you then, once the thing is running, disconnect.
Unless, of course, you want a "demonstration" that looks reasonably good
through the idea that a battery couldn't possible last this long. As
another pointed out, pulse charging can make batteries last much longer
than we might expect. But a capacitor won't lie.
