On Feb 20, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:

Hi,

See my message to vortex-l posted 28 Mar. 2004 in Bill's archive at
http://www.eskimo.com/~bilb/freenrg/vort403.zip



As far as I can tell you do not provide any reason whatever below that the 12 MeV alphas predicted by the subject theory as the principal reaction path to *not* be a major problem with the theory. On the contrary, this is basically just a repetition or variation of the Chubb theory, which in effect says you do *not* obtain high energy (MeV order) alphas because of lattice coupling distributing the energy.

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In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sun, 28 Mar 2004 09:16:03 -0800:
Hi,
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In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sun, 28 Mar 2004 09:16:03 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>Why penalize good experimental results with a lame theory? The only unambiguous characteristic of fusion reactions is gamma radiation. Period.

Yesterday I posted a theoretical mechanism[1] which would result in energetic alphas (and perhaps energetic electrons) rather than gamma rays.
1. See thread "Another possible helium producing mechanism"]

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>If you have no gammas and want to invoke phonon or lattice coupling, then first set up an experiment where you can show that nuclear lattice coupling is high probability and happens most of the time in similar situations.
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>Unfortunately, the relevant and obvious experiment has been performed and it is null. When one loads tritium into a Pd lattice, the decay gammas are still measurable and correlate well with what theory says they should be - how could this be true if Pd somehow promotes nuclear lattice coupling? Conclusion: nuclear lattice coupling is a myth.

It could easily happen, if only a small percentage of the decays couple to the lattice, while the rest are normal, in which case, one would be measuring the normal component. Furthermore, the question needs to be asked, whether or not the "CF effect" occurred at all in the above experiment? If not, then it is just one of the many null experiments, and hence contributes nothing to our overall knowledge. In order for a change in T decay to be useful, one would need to determine whether or not there was a decrease in gammas from T decay while excess heat production / transmutation was in progress. Even this may not be measurable, since likely only a very small percentage of the T would be reacting at any one time, and consequently the change in decay rate would be barely perceptible. Furthermore, you appear to make the assumption that a tight coupling would eliminate the gammas. This is not the case, see the Mˆssbauer effect, in which they are not eliminated, but rather the energy spectrum shifts. (BTW if T is used instead of D then there should be spare neutrons floating around from the reaction T + T -> He4 + 2n. Absorption of these neutrons by Pd nuclei should result in gammas with a measurably different energy. This in itself would be a sensitive test to the presence of a CF reaction, not to mention that the neutrons themselves should be easily detectable - and dangerous).

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Blue:
>"What I would suggest is that we need to move beyond the mere existence of a nuclear-lattice coupling to a discussion of the quantitative aspects of such couplings. If one assigns an energy scale to the various known couplings there is a pattern that is worth noting. The energies involved in nuclear-lattice couplings are not very big. They don't have very large effects on the nuclear states involved. Now is such experimental data something we can simply ignore? I claim that all the experimental data that addresses this question has to be considered and given weight appropriately along with the CF calorimetry data. To my mind it defies logic to assert that this body of experimental data should be ignored in this discussion. The evidence clearly indicates that nuclear-lattice couplings are, at most, small perturbations on nuclear states. Is there anyone who would challenge that statement as a good summary for the vast
>body of data available?" END of quote

Just because no one previously noticed high energy examples, doesn't necessarily mean that they are not possible. Furthermore, once the low energy phenomenon has been recognised, many people tend to explore it, resulting in a "vast body of data". CF may just be an example of high energy coupling.

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>I think anyone can easily see that two points have been made in this and other related posts (and never countered effectively). The points are that outside of cold fusion, that nuclear lattice-coupling is a low energy. low probability phenomenon - far from a "bulk" or common event. For it to be the prime reason that gammas are not found would imply that it happens *most of the time* in CF, but nowhere else in all of physics - as even in the best of circumstances it is a rare event. Moreover, the 24 MeV photon is so incredibly potent and detectable (and deadly) that it would stick out like a sore thumb in situations where many joules of excess heat were released unless the coupling were nearly absolute.
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>Bottom line - by invoking lattice coupling, the apologist is piggybacking one even more debilitating controversy on top of another.
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>Why penalize your good experimental results with such a lame theory?
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>Jones
The gist of your argument appears to be that even if such coupling were possible, then there should still be some reactions producing detectable gamma rays (correct me if this is not what you were trying to say). However this argument assumes that the fusion reactions can occur without the lattice coupling. That may not be the case. IOW no coupling -> no reaction, and hence no gamma rays. The coupling itself may be the very agent of the reaction (as well as the energy removal mechanism). You can see this as follows. When a tight couple with the lattice is established, it very favourably alters the chances of a reaction taking place. IMO this is most likely because a tight lattice coupling results in zero or very low *relative* velocity between the deuterium nuclei, which in turn vastly increases their relative De Broglie wavelengths, such that these overlap, making tunnelling possible. Then the same tight couple which brought about the reaction also distributes the energy of the reaction to the lattice, in the form of a slight shift in the relative positions of many (millions?) of lattice atoms. This shift is like stressing a spring, which upon its release redistributes its stress energy in the form of heat in the lattice. This may appear self serving, however it seems to me that it is the very overlap of the De broglie waves which is the essence of the tight coupling in the first place. It is the "matter waves" which provide the link between the atoms, hence the mechanism which makes the fusion reaction possible is precisely the same mechanism which is responsible for distributing the energy. It is not really two separate processes, but all part of a single process.

Note that we are talking about a hydrogen (isotope) lattice here, which explains why high loading is necessary. I.e. at low loading, there are two many discontinuities in the lattice to provide the necessary long chains required for a tight coupling (which I envisage to take place in single rows of atoms).

If this scenario is correct, then high amplitude monotonic sound waves in the lattice should facilitate CF, due to forced resonance. Particularly when long wave sound (i.e. low frequency) is used. There is some evidence for this from the Italian nickel-hydrogen experiments where they stated that a "sharp blow" was required or helped, as well perhaps from Russ George's ultrasound results. Given that loading is greater near the surface, it would seem prudent to introduce these waves parallel to the surface, thus increasing the length of chains available.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk
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