Yes Jed I understand your philosophy.
The government does things and they do right.
Inventions, medicine or . . . Doesn't matter you just have that mindset
nothing much to do about.
IMHO there is room for other sometimes opposite opinions.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 11:17 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael Foster <mf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, you are correct about the 6% figure. They merely stated that 6% of
>> cases that listed covid19 as the sole cause of death failed to list the
>> co-morbidities.
>>
>
> Correct. COVID-19 itself does not kill patients directly as often as it
> leaves them open to secondary infections and things like that.
>
>
> But you have fallen into the trap of the CDC's tricky manipulation of
>> data. There have been up to 80,000 deaths per year supposedly caused by
>> influenza (which strains?). The CDC then gives the mortality rate based
>> upon an *estimated* number of infections. In other words, any number they
>> want to make up.
>>
>
> No, they do not make up these numbers. The numbers are based on clinical
> data from doctors and hospitals, and field studies. They are estimated
> because ordinary influenza is not on the list of diseases that doctors must
> report. Some forms of influenza have to be reported but not others. See:
>
> https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001929.htm
>
>
> They then state the mortality rate among *known* covid infections.
>>
>
> That is the only thing they can do. There are no other reliable numbers at
> present. There will be more data after widespread antibody tests can be
> performed. In any case, we know that COVID-19 kills at least 10 times more
> people than influenza in a typical year. Influenza typically kills around
> 30,000, although some years a dangerous strain will kill many more. We know
> that COVID-19 has only infected a small fraction of the population, because
> people have taken precautions such as wearing masks, whereas influenza
> infects a much larger fraction. If COVID-19 were to spread as widely as
> influenza usually does, it would kill ~40 times more people than influenza.
> It would also disable many people for life with permanent lung damage,
> strokes, heart problems, amputations and so on. Influenza seldom does that.
> So it is far more lethal and serious.
>
>
>
>> These people at the CDC, the NIH and the FDA are corrupt to the nines.
>>
>
> Not the ones I know. They are hardworking scientists. I think you should
> not generalize about people you know nothing about.
>
>
> In the FDA, and I know this is hard to believe, many of the employees'
>> salaries are actually paid by pharmaceutical companies.
>>
>
> That would be against Federal law. I know several people who work or
> worked for Uncle Sam, such as my late mother. They cannot accept so much as
> a ham sandwich from anyone. Where did you read that? Be careful what you
> believe.
>
>

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