awesome harry On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 2:58 PM Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I realize this is off topic. And I expect everyone here has heard about > it. But I thought you would like to see some quantitative information. > > Here is a note on temperatures. The second article says the Moderna > vaccine can be kept at -20°C. The Pfizer vaccine has to be kept at -75°C > during shipping and storage. It can be stored in an ordinary refrigerator > for up to 5 days before it is used. ( > https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54889084) I asked a nurse about this. > She said there are several vaccines that require cold storage. She said > this will probably come as a powder, which is mixed with room temperature > fluid before inoculation. The older version of the shingles vaccine was > like this. > > > > Good news! Moderna's vaccine is reportedly 95% effective. Here are the raw > numbers as reported by CNN: > > > 15,000 vaccines administered. 5 people in that group got COVID-19. They > had mild cases. > > 15,000 placebos administered. 90 people in that group got COVID-19. 11 had > severe cases. > > > This is reported as 94.5% effective, which I think is too many digits of > precision. I would say >90%. But I quibble. I think there is no question it > is effective. > > > It seems the vaccine reduces the severity of the disease when it does not > prevent it completely > > > There were no severe side effects. There were some side effects in some > patients, such as headaches. > > > Fauci said this is good news. If the Pfizer and or the Moderna vaccines > are approved, the first ones may be administered in December to risk groups > such as doctors and nurses. Fauci predicted the general population may be > vaccinated from May to July 2021. > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/16/health/Covid-moderna-vaccine.html > > > "Early Data Show Moderna’s Coronavirus Vaccine Is 94.5% Effective > > Moderna is the second company to report preliminary results from a large > trial testing a vaccine. But there are still months to go before it will be > widely available to the public." > > > > More good news, from CNN. This may drive down the stock market value of > Pfizer: > > > While the two vaccines appear to have very similar safety and efficacy > profiles, Moderna's vaccine has a significant practical advantage over > Pfizer's. > > > Pfizer's vaccine has to be kept at minus 75 degrees Celsius — or about > minus 103 degrees Fahrenheit. No other vaccine in the US needs to be kept > that cold, and doctors' offices and pharmacies do not have freezers that go > that low. > > > Moderna's vaccine can be kept at minus 20 degrees Celsius, which is about > minus 4 degrees Fahrenheit. Other vaccines, such as the one against > chickenpox, need to be kept at that temperature. > > > That means Moderna's vaccine can be kept in "a readily available freezer > that is available in most doctors' offices and pharmacies," said Dr. Tal > Zacks, Moderna's chief medical officer. "We leverage infrastructure that > already exists for other marketed vaccines." > > > Another advantage of Moderna's vaccine is that it can be kept for 30 days > in the refrigerator, the company announced Monday. Pfizer's vaccine can > last only five days in the refrigerator. > > >
