Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote: Jed's opinion that all governmental protection laws will slow the process > down is probably accurate in a country like the US. >
No I do not think it will slow down the overall process. Perhaps by year or so but that does not matter. The extra cost from regulatory testing is trivial. In the end, careful checking by regulatory agencies and organizations such as UL are not only essential, they also improve the products, and speed up the transition. You would not want to buy a product that is not going through this process. We cannot deploy nuclear reactors that do not have 100% assured safety. The public would never allow that, nor should it. > It will be supported by all the Exxon, GM, etc. also. However, in > Bangladesh or Zimbabwe the situation is different. The market can be > established over night. > Nonsense. These countries are not capable of manufacturing anything like this. First world countries that can manufacture things like this such as the US, Europe, Japan or China, will go through the proper steps to ensure safety. The Chinese now do this as much as any other country. I hope that people in Bangladesh will be able to buy these things after advanced countries begin manufacturing them. > And again, Jed, the government has never made anything. > That is outrageous, infuriating nonsense. Every cold fusion researcher except for Rossi is either an employee of the government or is being paid for by the government. Who do you think paid Fleischmann, Mizuno, Miles or Storms? They worked for governments all of their careers. Are you saying these people have contributed nothing to science?!? Government researchers invented nuclear power, computers, most advances in aviation, most first generation computer software, the Internet, and much else. Those researchers included my late mother, who was awarded a medal by President Carter for her work, and many other people known to me, personally. Do not tell me they never accomplished what I know for a fact they did! Government scientists eradicated smallpox and government money paid for most vaccination research for polio and other dread diseases. Government grants paid for many other advances such as the laser and integrated circuits. They government money the entire weather forecasting and GPS systems, and all large telescopes both optical and radio. It is simply outrageous for you to slander researchers at national laboratories, the CDC, the NIH and other government research institutions in the U.S. and elsewhere. It is beyond the pale. Evidently you know nothing about the history of modern technology, and nothing about science. Since you know nothing about this I suggest you stop making up bullshit, and shut up. And yes, I do take this personally. > It is an organization and by definition organizations cannot achieve > results. > So, IBM never made a computer? UPS never delivered a parcel? > People funded or employed by the government can and has and will in the > future. > That's the government! Those people constitute the government. The employees there organized and carried out countless projects to discover things, invent things, and improve people's lives. Oh, and by the way, they also won the First and Second World Wars. If they hadn't, you would be a slave of the Germans. What you are saying is preposterous. It is like claiming that IBM contributed nothing to the Watson computer; it was entirely the product of the people within IBM who directly worked on that project. That is ridiculous. Those people could not have done anything without funding, planning, organization and support from management, and input from countless other experts within IBM. The organization as a whole gets credit for this. The U.S. government as a whole gets credit for the Internet. Especially V.P. Albert Gore gets credit. See: http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~fessler/misc/funny/gore,net.txt http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/al-gore . . . [A]s the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time." - Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf > Just let us think about who feeds the government to be able to fund this? > We do! The taxpayers. That is why ultimately we should get the credit for the Internet. And also for winning World War II. We get the credit because we paid for it, and because we are smart enough to elect people such as Al Gore, and they are smart enough to fund improvements to technology such as the Internet. If we elect anti-science nitwits who despise science, progress will come to a halt. Or at least, the U.S. will be left behind by our economic rivals. > Do we want to have one channel where we send all resources hoping the > resources will be used efficiently? > I agree with Bill Gates in his recent statement that the government does fundamental research better than any other organization, and we need more of that. No one claims the government is perfect, but when it comes to research, it is ahead of whoever is in 2nd place. If it were not for government cold fusion would never have been discovered and even if it had been it would have been forgotten 25 years ago. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/11/we-need-an-energy-miracle/407881/ - Jed
