On Thu, 5 May 2005, Michael Foster wrote: > Aw, c'mon, Bill. Don't you think you're being unkind to > the morally handicapped? I was sort of getting kick out > the dodging and weaving.
Heh. I had my fill of this way back in the "Mitch" era. Also, I started out as one of these "liar" types myself. It took years for me to get loose of it, and I developed a feeling of revulsion whenever I encounter remaining traces of it in myself. (And when I encountered the "bend-over-backwards honesty" mentioned in Feynman's Cargo Cult science, I took it as new gospel and started preaching it.) And when I encounter others with the dishonesty problem, I refuse to put up with the same revulsion for any long period. Either they go away, or I do. In the case of vortex-L, the choice is obvious. Maybe I should put that in the rules: "be warned, the moderator has a low tolerance for dishonesty, and tends to eject members on suspicion only, without clear proof of lies." (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-789-0775 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci

